Help with BOV

[DSMJim]

Like I said before, you won't regret buying a HKS SSQV bov. I'm not kidding, trust me.
my car ran like shit too when my recirc hose poped on me with the 1g bov. With an aftermarket it will take a day or two at most for your car to go back to normal. It did for me and my brothers car. when you first have it unrecirculated, it will run kindof crappy. It's bullshit that you need a Maft translator to run recirculated, its just not worth the $$. Money is better spent elsewhere. I will say this again....arggg....everyone I know in Fresno who owns an eclipse DO NOT have a problem running unrecirculated.

I won't ever bother posting about my experience with this ever again. DO a SEARCH!! i'm tired of repeating myself. GO AND TRY IT!!!

If there is any BOV your going to run un-recirculated the HKS SSQV is one of them that keeps closed the most, but you will still run into problems. Honestly there is no good reason to not re-circulate your bov.

heres a free mod, misc tip : dont' block off the recirculating tube on the intake, just put a cloth over it and clamp it down. It will make your car run a little leaner. Do it at your own risk

Heres a free mod, misc tip : you don't know jack shit about cars, I can't believe you just said that. Pull in un-metered air on a turbo car? Through a hole that large? If you even have a boost leak at an intercooler pipe that is leaking a small amount of air it will throw your air fuel way off, never mind a 1.5" round tube not a leak around a silicone connector. This is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. Please sell your car and donate your money to the "I'm a stupid moron fund" because your a complete retard you ricer piece of shit.

 

[92awddsm]

And now back to the original question.

You can recirculate both the hks ssq and the blitz dd bov. The hks has a recirculation adapter that can be purchase seperately while the blitz comes with both a fitler outlet and a reciculation outlet that are secured to the bov with 2 screws. They can be swapped out in a matter of minutes.

You can also get the greddy race bov, type s, turbo xs h-34, and the forge which can all be reciculated. Im sure there are more but that is a few of your choices. All of them are going to require some tuning for your particular application but Im sure they will all hold boost better than the stock 1g.

 

[kottyking]

Like I said before, you won't regret buying a HKS SSQV bov. I'm not kidding, trust me.
my car ran like shit too when my recirc hose poped on me with the 1g bov. With an aftermarket it will take a day or two at most for your car to go back to normal. It did for me and my brothers car. when you first have it unrecirculated, it will run kindof crappy. It's bullshit that you need a Maft translator to run recirculated, its just not worth the $$. Money is better spent elsewhere. I will say this again....arggg....everyone I know in Fresno who owns an eclipse DO NOT have a problem running unrecirculated.

I won't ever bother posting about my experience with this ever again. DO a SEARCH!! i'm tired of repeating myself. GO AND TRY IT!!!

heres a free mod, misc tip : dont' block off the recirculating tube on the intake, just put a cloth over it and clamp it down. It will make your car run a little leaner. Do it at your own risk

I know you have gotten a good enough ass reaming but cmon!!!!!! First off the maft isnt just for venting you retard, it outflows just about anything out there. second off, why the hell would you put cloth over the recirc tube?? To get a more inaccurate reading. You obviously havent learned anything from this website and my jaw is hitting the ground as we speak. I hate noobs like you that vent ## bov and think your sweet. Lastly, if you had a datalogger and logged a few times you would see that venting is bad. It may not feel bad but it is. I can't even believe what i am reading here.

 

[definitiveno]

not only a bad reading from the maf, it's the worst kind. ALl that unmetered air wouldn't be getting any fuel compensation causing lean conditions, possibly motor go boom

 

[kgtalon95]

Like I said before, you won't regret buying a HKS SSQV bov. I'm not kidding, trust me.
my car ran like shit too when my recirc hose poped on me with the 1g bov. With an aftermarket it will take a day or two at most for your car to go back to normal. It did for me and my brothers car. when you first have it unrecirculated, it will run kindof crappy. It's bullshit that you need a Maft translator to run recirculated, its just not worth the $$. Money is better spent elsewhere. I will say this again....arggg....everyone I know in Fresno who owns an eclipse DO NOT have a problem running unrecirculated.

I won't ever bother posting about my experience with this ever again. DO a SEARCH!! i'm tired of repeating myself. GO AND TRY IT!!!

heres a free mod, misc tip : dont' block off the recirculating tube on the intake, just put a cloth over it and clamp it down. It will make your car run a little leaner. Do it at your own risk

DO you personally have experience with a maft??? If not how can you call it a waste of money. My 20g hits full boost at 3500rpm, 18lbs. 4k even before the maft. Stop with the "this is what i've heard info" and comment on it if you've run it. For 200 bucks its pretty damn nice to spool a large turbo faster......have another tuning tool with injector compensation..........and be able to vent. Okay i'm done defending my mods now...play nice

 

[Eclipsei95cl]

I actually feel bad for the guy now, he was probably just misinformed. I think were being to hard on him.

 

[92awddsm]

I feel bad for the person that started this thread because he had a legitimate question. Now all of a sudden, all of you have been sidetracked by some idiot that doesnt have a clue what he is talking about.

Go ahead and leave neg feedback for those that make a misinformed post and then answer the question that was asked.Dont turn this thread around to bash someone. That is as bad as making assinine suggestion and also a good reason for you to receive neg feedback.

 

[definitiveno]

I feel bad for the person that started this thread because he had a legitimate question. Now all of a sudden, all of you have been sidetracked by some idiot that doesnt have a clue what he is talking about.

Go ahead and leave neg feedback for those that make a misinformed post and then answer the question that was asked.Dont turn this thread around to bash someone. That is as bad as making assinine suggestion and also a good reason for you to receive neg feedback.

pot meets kettle? You bashed the guy and others for bashing, critiqued others for not addressing the threads topic and questions and continued to not do so yourself.

 

[92awddsm]

pot meets kettle? You bashed the guy and others for bashing, critiqued others for not addressing the threads topic and questions and continued to not do so yourself.

And now back to the original question.

You can recirculate both the hks ssq and the blitz dd bov. The hks has a recirculation adapter that can be purchase seperately while the blitz comes with both a fitler outlet and a reciculation outlet that are secured to the bov with 2 screws. They can be swapped out in a matter of minutes.

You can also get the greddy race bov, type s, turbo xs h-34, and the forge which can all be reciculated. Im sure there are more but that is a few of your choices. All of them are going to require some tuning for your particular application but Im sure they will all hold boost better than the stock 1g.

I feel bad for the person that started this thread because he had a legitimate question. Now all of a sudden, all of you have been sidetracked by some idiot that doesnt have a clue what he is talking about.

Go ahead and leave neg feedback for those that make a misinformed post and then answer the question that was asked.Dont turn this thread around to bash someone. That is as bad as making assinine suggestion and also a good reason for you to receive neg feedback.

I didnt bash as you can see from my only 2 posts. I was trying to get this thread back on track.

 

[definitiveno]

I didnt bash as you can see from my only 2 posts. I was trying to get this thread back on track.

missed your first post


92awddsm > definitiveno

 

[euroticcustoms]

I've already tried "venting" on my car, well not on purpose as I know the reasons why you shouldn't vent but the recirc hose poped off once & the car ran like complete azz

my car ran like shit too when my recirc hose poped on me with the 1g bov. With an aftermarket it will take a day or two at most for your car to go back to normal. It did for me and my brothers car. when you first have it unrecirculated, it will run kindof crappy.

The reason your cars ran like crap with the recirc hose off is because unmetered air was entering the system, bypassing the MAF sensor.

Seriously, try this: Remove the clamp from the recirculation side of the BOV, leaving the rubber elbow/hose attached to the intake. Find a plug large enough to fit snugly into the rubber elbow and clamp it in there. The engine will run fine.

Actually, you can just remove the recirculation tube and listen to the engine...it will idle irradically/sputter/etc. Now hold your hand over the hole in the intake and the engine will idle back up and run normal again. I'm not saying that running without the recirc won't make the car run a little rich, but it won't make it run like total crap.



EDIT: Sorry, I'm new to forced induction, but I've been trying to diagnose a problem with my 95 TSi AWD lately...trying EVERYTHING I can think of to get my car running right. My friend, who's a car dealer, bought this car at an auction...one of the guys who worked at the auction owned a GST or GSX and stole the HKS SSQV with the recirc. adapter off of the car. There was a box inside of the car for the HKS SSQV, but it had the stock BOV in it instead (with the plastic around the vacuum nipple busted off and silicone slopped around it).

My buddy knows nothing about turbos and hooked the rubber elbows between the intake and intercooler piping together with one of the little metal pieces supplied with the BOV. Anyway, when he called me to come look at the car, he showed me this mess...wondered why the car was only boosting 3psi and running like crap. Well, I put the stock BOV back on...ran fine...boosted 15psi. Drove it a couple days and it started running like crap. I figured the BOV may have been malfunctioning or something and tried venting to test my theory.

Thought it cured the problem, but now it's back again. Anyway, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with this post...sorry for rambling. I ran across this trying to figure out what might be causing my sputter/backfire at 3500-4000 RPM's. Already tried fuel system cleaner, fuel filter, and plugs. Have a set of 6 core 10.5 mm plug wires ordered...I was going to do a pressure check, but think I'm just going to wait for the 14b and FMIC with IC piping, and go from there.

Sorry again for taking over this month old thread...just didn't wany everybody thinking I was a dumba$$ and trying to say "Go ahead and vent, it won't hurt anything at all"

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[oldman]

Holy cow, I'm speechless. Did you even read page one?

 

[euroticcustoms]

Holy cow, I'm speechless. Did you even read page one?

Yes I did read page one, but nowhere on page one does it say "the reason your car was running like crap with the recirculation hose 'popped off' is because a 1" hole magically appeared after the MAF sensor, allowing unmetered air into the system."

I shouldn't have replied to this damn post at all, because I knew everybody would line up with their torches and stakes.

This is what I was trying to say in my reply: If the recirc hose POPS off, your car will run like crap because air is entering past the MAF sensor. If you plug the hole in the intake, the car will MUCH better than with the intake sucking air in after the MAF sensor. <---- that's my whole point of posting

I didn't say that this wouldn't make the car run rich, or that it would not cut performance, or that a MAFT is not needed to run while venting. All I was saying is that I have been in the process of troubleshooting a problem, thinking possibly my BOV was sticking or something. I vented it temporarily, with the handle of a large screwdriver plugging the intake elbow, because I noticed that as soon as I pulled the BOV out of the recirc elbow, the engine was running rich due to unmetered air.

That's all...but IF there was a BOV on a N/A car, and it popped off the intake, the car would do the same thing, because air would be entering past the MAF.

Sorry, just wanted to clear my post up. I understand what your DSM guru's were saying about not running vented, and I'll take your word that it's better to run non-vented. I'm not the guy who says to put a sock over the recirc. port in the intake

 

[allgripnoslip]

daren p, The design of the hks ssqv sounds like it can hold just about any kind of boost, but that forge sounds like a badasss bov with all the adjustments that you can make to it. Id say just get it flanged for a 1g with the dirveter vavle and buy the spring and shim kit for it. This has propted me to seriously consider buying one as well thats one hell of a bov for that price.

 

[daren_p]

daren p, The design of the hks ssqv sounds like it can hold just about any kind of boost, but that forge sounds like a badasss bov with all the adjustments that you can make to it. Id say just get it flanged for a 1g with the dirveter vavle and buy the spring and shim kit for it. This has propted me to seriously consider buying one as well thats one hell of a bov for that price.

Yes I did go with the 1g flange, a long time ago. This post has been hanging around for a while because of unless/unrelated info. but I think I'm going to try the forge unit. I was going to start another post on that bov to see if I could get some reviews on it as there isn't alot of info on that bov here.

 

[kottyking]

I wouldn't necessarily say that all greddy bovs are crap. I have the type-s and I've been very happy with it after getting it dialed in. For every person who hates it, there are 5 more who are happy with it and haven't said anything.

It's too bad i have to be that 1 guy that hates em'. I loved the way it sounds and it such and easy install on the 1g but the adjusting nut on the top broke and it stripped out screw on the top and gave me wicked compressor surge and i didnt realize it for atleast 1 week when the bov sounded like a squabble instead of the crisp whistle.