fastest non-turbo

[thehyena]

I make mid 16's now

 

[pickens]

unbelieveable! For your 3200 lb eclipse to run a 14 anything, you will need more than bolt-ons. All the bolt-ons dont add as much power as you think they would. Usually, you end up w/ your stock flywheel rated power as being your wheel power after cai, exhaust, header, cams, fp, pulleys, etc. W/out severe weight reduction, it takes a hella of alot of extra power to go from mid 16s to low 15s high 14s. At best you can run some solid 15s but thats it until you do some major work on either weight, or motor. I mean, gsts run low 15s stock with more power than you would have with all the bolt-ons I mentioned, more torque too. Lets get real. Throw some nitrous on your n/t then talk to me about 14s and 13s.

 

[97eclipsedGS]

Originally posted by pickens
unbelieveable! For your 3200 lb eclipse to run a 14 anything, you will need more than bolt-ons. All the bolt-ons dont add as much power as you think they would. Usually, you end up w/ your stock flywheel rated power as being your wheel power after cai, exhaust, header, cams, fp, pulleys, etc. W/out severe weight reduction, it takes a hella of alot of extra power to go from mid 16s to low 15s high 14s. At best you can run some solid 15s but thats it until you do some major work on either weight, or motor. I mean, gsts run low 15s stock with more power than you would have with all the bolt-ons I mentioned, more torque too. Lets get real. Throw some nitrous on your n/t then talk to me about 14s and 13s.

couldnt agree more... people need to be realistic

 

[dudasd]

[email protected] at virginia motorsports park

Is it me or does that MPH just seem ludicrously low for running a 14.46???? All of you guys claiming to run low 14/high 13's need to produce some slips, only one I know of that can be verified is Billy Mack...the rest of you I seriously think need to find some serious proof before you start making such bold claims...... Not gonna be the one to say it can;t be done, but in all honesty, with the mods you guys are listing I see no way in hell for a 2G to get anywhere near the times most of you are claiming...And I also wanna know just what in the hell this mystery "VTEC like" setup Xhypno is running on his 1G comes from or is derived from, never heard of anything like that either.....

 

[pickens]

I think I see, are these times on slicks. Maybe, and I do mean maaaaaaybe you could break into the 14s w/ a nice set of slicks. If your running slicks I will think about giving you credit for a 14sec pass.

 

[Beef Jerky]

Time to break out the BS flag once again in this particular forum. It's no wonder the turbo guys don't take us seriously.

 

[mdre21]

Mitsubishi made a system similar to v-tec awhile ago called MIVEC or MIVAC something like that. I don't know if they still make those engines or not, and i know they never came to the us.

 

[dudasd]

I know about the MIVEC system, but it sounds like he is talking about something totally different....once again the BS flag is coming out on anyone saying they are running 14's or 13's without a slip to prove it, but at this point I really wanna see a video to back up the claims because to me I wouldn;t put it past someone to post someone elses slip and say it's theirs. Like I said, the only one that can back up his time out of this whole thread so far is Billy Mack, the rest need to put up or shut up......

 

[97eclipsedGS]

Originally posted by dudasd
at this point I really wanna see a video to back up the claims because to me I wouldn;t put it past someone to post someone elses slip and say it's theirs. Like I said, the only one that can back up his time out of this whole thread so far is Billy Mack, the rest need to put up or shut up......

couldnt agree more!

but i also want to say how much respect i have for the guys that choose to have no N02, and no boost. these guys know their motors inside and out (like billy mack must to put down the times he did). the people who SAY that they are running 13s are a disgrace to the guys busting their asses tuning to ACTUALLY get into the 14s... but props to the all-motor guys, at least from my perspective!

 

[dudasd]

I give props to anyone that can turn a mid-15 or better NA, but like was said ^^^^^ some people just do their best to disgrace the ones that actually have done it and turn really good time.

 

[98_silvergs]

14's on an n/t with just basic bolt ons :laugh:

This thread sucks

 

[opie1]

i used to work for Extreme motorsports. Alot of 1g turbo work. I 've built alot of turbo engine for that a-hole down there. he still has 2 of my engines down there. i do side work on 1g and 2g turbo's. full race to mild street. with NOS that why Glazer is so fast. it is taking almost a second and a half off of his time. he doesn't listen to no one not even his own father. thats why i left. and decided to do non turbo work. i will beat 200hp all motor. and planning to to turbo installs also, and any thing else to the non turbos that I did with the turbos.

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by 98_silvergs


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[billy mack]

i ran 14.8 on street tires.
i got alot of shit for the time, oh hes spraying ??
what the ####,
all the turbo guys in my area said there is no way?, (because i was betting them all motor)
any way the first race whe were all at i made them come over and watch me take out my bottle, (i was running 13.9's all day with a 50 shot in third) any way my first run was 14.6 all motor..
this was with a stock block, but built everything eles.
now i run 8.6:1 pistons, and the last time i ran, was 4 weeks ago, and i was fludding bad,
(my fuel press gauge was at 75 psi at idle) i ran 15.8
the next time i run will be atleast bottem 12's thanks to some psi from a snail like thing

 

[pickens]

Everyone please take notice(especially "FnF racers"): From what Billy Mack stated- He has a stock block and more importanly, EVERYTHING else built and he averages a mid to high 14. I can believe that. Any built motor had better be in the 14s! But that means no basic bolt on N/A motor is dipping into the 14s. So dont go around thinking it will happen w/ the common i/h/e. I would be happy w/ a high 15 after bolt ons if I had a NA.

 

[eclipse_420]

Originally posted by pickens
unbelieveable! For your 3200 lb eclipse to run a 14 anything, you will need more than bolt-ons. All the bolt-ons dont add as much power as you think they would. Usually, you end up w/ your stock flywheel rated power as being your wheel power after cai, exhaust, header, cams, fp, pulleys, etc. W/out severe weight reduction, it takes a hella of alot of extra power to go from mid 16s to low 15s high 14s. At best you can run some solid 15s but thats it until you do some major work on either weight, or motor. I mean, gsts run low 15s stock with more power than you would have with all the bolt-ons I mentioned, more torque too. Lets get real. Throw some nitrous on your n/t then talk to me about 14s and 13s.

I dont know how much this really matters but, an rs eclipse is quite a bit lighter than 3200 lbs...I went to my friends work one day and for the hell of it pulled on the certified scales and with him myself 2 15" subs and 2 amps, spare tire and after market 16" rims the car only weighed
2,843 lbs...so unless daily used certified scales are wrong the car is quite a bit lighter

 

[MetalJim]

Billy Mack is the ONLY 2gnt running in the 14s. He's got quite a few mods, as well as a tranny thats geared track only. His car is WERKIN at 60 on the roads, but it'll finish the quarter @ 96 mph. Check it out - he's #94 on the 1/4 mile times list at this moment.

I've got quite a few mods and I'm stuggling to get toward the mid 15 mark. It's alot harder than it looks on TV.

 

[Koncept_DSM]

yah it's pretty tuff getting to a mid 15 but times also vary to where you are racing..... track conditions, altitude, etc...... i can only pull mid to low 16's here but it's like 3800 ft above sea level and the air sucks bad here..... but i fully think if i raced at a great track and closer to sea level i could pull out an upper to mid 15

 

[l0gan]

My advice to all of you trying to run 13's in a n/a car.... go buy a trans am or a camaro....

 

[98_silvergs]

Originally posted by l0gan
My advice to all of you trying to run 13's in a n/a car.... go buy a trans am or a camaro....

Does the mullet come with either of them??

 

[twiztidn8v]

Originally posted by 98_silvergs


Does the mullet come with either of them??

... good one

 

[EclipseAtLSU]

last night I ran a 15.95 in my 97 Eclipse RS. All I have done is custom 2.5 inch cat back, and a filter on the stock intake tube. I took out my spare tire too. That's all I have, but I was very pleased with my time. I'm hoping that with a CAI, Header, high flow cat, I can hit mid 15s maybe. We'll see.

 

[dr1665]

Here's where we separate the men from the boys. A little update if you will from the 2GNT community...

Billy Mack holds the quickest time all-motor 2GNT with that 14.6 ET. He's currently running a turbocharged 2.4 on the bottle. So, even though he has the time, the car, as it was, is no more.
VX100 holds the #2 spot with a 15.3 ET.

After that, I don't remember the list and it doesn't matter since I'll be somewhere between the 2 times by next summer anyways. If you run the "factory freak" (*cough* BS *cough*), bring your bolt ons and prove it at the DSM Shootout next year.

Right now I have built the bottom end and done some supporting mods, with an AFX ECU on the way and serious headwork come spring. Here's something I know a lot of people here will get a kick out of...

I will be the fastest stock displacement all-motor 2GNT in the world.

I will be at the shootout next summer and I will have video of the run, a couple dyno pulls and a time slip to prove it

Considser your ricey asses called out. See you in Ohio bitches.

 

[97eclipseRS]

damn that was ownage if i may say so. let me tell you all that the good doctor is not bs-ing like most of you. he knows damn well what hes talking about and will achieve this goal imo. you all better watch out cuz he will be the fastest, that is till i decide to get heavy into the all motor game

 

[lawdaman]

Originally posted by xhypno
that is very true. I have been torn up by a toyota tercel!!! (I mean bad, I misted 2nd and then 3rd due to a bad tranny) Never could catch up to it, but I wonder what the high pitched 110db whistling was, I ges the world may never know.

Wha..? Dog dont they have like 4 gears OOPS! I'm sorry I forgot reverse... Last I checked they had well under 100HP stock... Damn you really must have messed up with the shifting. You're A bigger man than me. I woulda block that whole incident from my memory, and never bring it up again.