Evo VIII Brakes on my 2g

[VETTE_50_TH]

Don't be too jealous because for a 1g you can modify and bolt on an entire susp and brake assy from evo.

Can you show this possibly. I have never heard, read, seen anything like that of what you are referring to. and what evo exactly are you talking about?

James

 

[jjgrizz73]

hey guys this has probably been covered but I just want a quick easy answer. If I want to do evo REAR brakes not front. What parts will I need besides the obvious calipers. This is on a 2g with rear drums also. Thanks

 

[gixxerdrew]

Also guys I still need to do the master cyl so I dont know which one to use (yet). But I still think the car really needs it with those brakes. AWD cars came with the larger master already

My Friend put the evo brakes on his car when he did the awd conversion. His brakes work fine with the stock gs-t mastercylinder. No need to change it.

I still have the stock master cyl right now, they do work. But they do not work optimally. They look nice but IMO, not road course worthy like this. Reaction time between when the driver wants to brake and when the car is breaking is lost time. You need the system to react and build pressure absolutely as fast as possible. if I cant get what I want out of it I will go to floor mount pedals.

 

[Locke]

No , what I mean is they look like 10 year anniversary edition Eclipse rims.
I realize that they are not now, but they do look like it.

Similarly to the OZ Eclipses, they are OZ F-1's, but in 17x7.5" instead of 16x6"

 

[mitsumissile]

Similarly to the OZ Eclipses, they are OZ F-1's, but in 17x7.5" instead of 16x6"

That's correct

 

[gixxerdrew]

Guys if I dont respond to a PM it means the answer to your question is in the thread or in a search that you should be doing. I dont mean to be rude (really) I'm just really busy developing some stuff or my car and keeping my job in a bad economy so I prioritize questions because I have to and dont answer ones where I feel the answer is already out there. I am sorry and hope nobody is offended. I get a lot of PMs on other forums (mostly Supra). I just have to limit how much time I spend helping people.

-Drew

 

[99 GST-R]

Hey guys I'm still getting all my parts together for this swap & AWD and I've got a idea for yall. Now that you have Evo brakes on your DSM, could you, if say for some reason need more stopping power, bolt on an aftermarket big brake kit for an EVO of the same year of the swapped brakes? I saw that Stoptech offers a 6 piston brake kit for the EVO 8-? One more thing for the great minds here: I have another idea about rims. Just buy rims made for a EVO 8 or 9. Now, I know that some of them will not work because they are too wide or would stick out, etc, but I think I'm onto something here. Here's an example of a pair of Gram Lights 57optimise:

2G Eclipse
18x7.5
Offset: +43mm
Backspacing: 5.90"
Bolt Pattern: 5-114
Rec. Tire Size: 225/40-18
Weight: 19.5lbs.

EVO 8
18x8.5
Offset: 33mm
Backspacing: 5.98"
Bolt Pattern: 5-114
Rec. Tire Size:235/40-18
Weight: 21.0lbs.

The Evo version is a better fit, as far as speedo readings and such. And its a inch wider.
Ya'll are free to call me a tard or whatever if I couldn't be further from the truth.

Just some food for thought.....

I'm really liking the new smilies

 

[UofACATS]

Now that you have Evo brakes on your DSM, could you, if say for some reason need more stopping power, bolt on an aftermarket big brake kit for an EVO of the same year of the swapped brakes? I saw that Stoptech offers a 6 piston brake kit for the EVO 8-? One more thing for the great minds here:

Yes. All you need are the JDM knuckles, then go shopping for evo BBKs. Although, FYI, there are BBKs out there for DSMs. No JDM parts required.

I have another idea about rims. Just buy rims made for a EVO 8 or 9. Now, I know that some of them will not work because they are too wide or would stick out, etc, but I think I'm onto something here. Here's an example of a pair of Gram Lights 57optimise:

The Evo version is a better fit, as far as speedo readings and such. And its a inch wider.
Ya'll are free to call me a tard or whatever if I couldn't be further from the truth.

You could, but why? You want the correct offset for your car, not an evo.

 

[AndrewD5418]

Don't be too jealous because for a 1g you can modify and bolt on an entire susp and brake assy from evo.

Show me proof that you can do the rear brakes from an evo on the 1g while keeping the ebrake.

 

[99 GST-R]

Im aware that there are BBK out there for our DSMs, but (I haven't looked for them much) I have yet to find a 6 pot BBK for our cars. Why 6 pot? I dont know, Im just saying.
The Eclipse version of the Gram Lights will not work with evo brakes, while the Evo version clears them, and is even a inch wider. Since the offset has to be +38 or less, I had problems finding rims that I liked, so I checked to see if those rims were made for the Evo, lo and behold they are.

 

[UofACATS]

You don't have to order "eclipse version" or "evo version" just figure out how large the rims need to be for your brakes, and make sure the caliper fits inside. Then it's whatever backspacing is best. Point is, it's the same rim. With the correct size and backspacing, an "eclipse" rim will clear evo brakes.

I hear what you're saying though.

What rims are you looking at that are available for evos but not dsms? Curious.

 

[projecTSI]

Show me proof that you can do the rear brakes from an evo on the 1g while keeping the ebrake.

+1, would love to hear about that.

 

[evileclipse909]

My friend that did the evo brakes had a hard time finding the perfect rims as well. He wanted the 5zigan f010r's. He orderd them in a 35 offset and they still didnt clear the calipers. He had to order another set in a 25 offset just to clear.

 

[cagleje]

My friend that did the evo brakes had a hard time finding the perfect rims as well. He wanted the 5zigan f010r's. He orderd them in a 35 offset and they still didnt clear the calipers. He had to order another set in a 25 offset just to clear.

thats odd? i have FNO1R-C's on my evo at this very moment. 18x8.5 35 offset. they clear my calipers better than my stock BBS's.

 

[99 GST-R]

No, they make the rim for our cars, but the offset isnt right. The ones made for the Evo are the same, but the offset is different. +33 (evo) vs +43 (DSM). You need a offset of +38 or less for the rims clear the brakes. The backspacing is 0.08 different from the one made for Eclipses. (See first post) My point is, if you buy rims made for the Evo 8-9 they WILL clear the brakes, no guessing at all, because they're made to clear them.

 

[cagleje]

big reason why i'm glad i kept my stock BBS's off my MR. just gonna pass them to my eclipse when i get back.

 

[gixxerdrew]

Update on this It's too late for me to try one but rockauto has 1" master cylinders for STUPID cheap. $28.99

go to search by part number pick A1-Cardone as manufacturer and part number 102809 their system claims thats an AWD master cylinder w/o ABS

 

[Gamble97]

Will the SS brake lines that you use for a 2g work with the evo calipers or do you need SS brake lines for the evo?

 

[Gamble97]

You could just save yourself the time and hassle by finding out what the offset are of the wheels you are trying to test. Stock EVO wheels are +38mm. If the wheel you are trying to test is +38 or less, it will fit. If it's more ( +39mm and up), then they won't fit.

Is this true? My 17" rota sub zero's are 40mm, so you say they won't fit?
Shit, I might as well stop while I'm ahead.

 

[Atuca]

It is true gamble.

I just bought evo 8 wheels because of all the trouble I heard people were having, and besides, I think evo 8 wheels are hawt, especially if powder coated well.

I got all my parts together, and they should be at my door by wednesday, I will be doing a very thorough explanation with pictures documenting this swap, from stock to done.

There is alot of info here but in alot of different places, so I hope to bring it all together in one place.

 

[Gamble97]

Darn
What is the offset of evo wheels? I am probably going to be off by what like 2mm What a shame.

 

[psycho]

Evo wheels have a 38mm offset. It also depends on the design of the rim. And 2mm can be cured by a spacer.

 

[Gamble97]

I wish someone had a 17" rota to throw on there and see if it would work or not.

 

[gixxerdrew]

I've done that and needed a small spacer.

 

[Gamble97]

I've done that and needed a small spacer.

With what rims?
I really want to avoid spacers if at all possible. My brother had one years ago on his grand prix and one of them exploded after a few thousand miles.