engine failure

[Jonathanlc05]

remember the belts snapping off.... now the engine may have killed itself last night.

i was driving 60 on a hill and all of a sudden it from a high noise to a low noise. power steering went out and battery killed itself in an hour.car wont crank and im just having the worst month, and oil light came on.

not too sure but either a bearing went out or compression. im hoping its covered under warranty though.

but im glad it wasnt at a turn but what sucked was i was with my girlfriend from 1-4am in 20 degree weather waiting for a tow. and didnt have the right supplies for the car or the 3 hour wait

 

[DSMcrazy3]

Have you checked your belts again? If the car kept going after the noise, then died after about an hour of driving then it's a good possibility it's a belt problem once again. The noise could have been a belt slipping on the pulley(ies) and finally dislodging itself. Which would explain the PS loss once again. Now the other belt could have gotten knocked off by aid of the PS belt, causing the car to run off the battery, eventually draining it, causing the oil light to come on when it died and not having enough juice to crank the starter.

This is just a possibilty if my predictions are correct, by your explaination it's hard to tell the sequence of events.

 

[Jonathanlc05]

the engine failed then the battery failed, and i dont know if it was the belt cause i didnt check but i dont think it was because it failed uphill without a snap. just when from a high pitch to low like a small whistle, thats how it died

 

[DSMcrazy3]

ok, well why does that lead you to believe spun bearing, or no compression? Could be a number of things.

 

[JpZero]

i dont know much about the situation but the oil light comming on dosent mean you need oil because of the fact you where going up hill and the oil would be missing the sensor so it would be telling you you needed oil. so at least that lowers your problems abit i hope.

good luck with the project

Justin

 

[Locke]

When you spin a bearing, it will generally start to squeal horribly for a moment, then the engine will stop. You probably will not be able to turn the engine by hand.

Give the engine bay a visual.

Check fluid levels.

Either put a new battery in, or disconnect old battery and jump from another vehicle, try to start.

If no start, do the basic no start checks.

Continue from there by following logic, until you are driving again, -OR- post the results of your tests here and dozens of minds will assist you in getting it running again.

 

[Blitzeclips]

Sounds like the belt to your alternator fell off. That would explain why the battery drained and you can't kick er' over.

 

[totaleclipse_05]

I would have to agree that it was the belt for the alternator. Look to see if it's still on there. Also, charge the battery and try to start up the car once it's fully charged again. If it starts and runs, at least you know your engine is f-ed ha.

 

[Jonathanlc05]

waiting to find out the answer on monday.

i had a compression problem almost exactly like this so i was lead to believe it was the same

 

[DSMcrazy3]

A compression problem really shouldn't whine(squeal).

 

[4UH8ERS]

I see no evidence to why it would be a compression problem. What exactly makes you think that.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

i was driving 60 on a hill and all of a sudden it from a high noise to a low noise. power steering went out and battery killed itself in an hour.car wont crank and oil light came on.

Seems to me you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. As stated already, a belt was most likely thrown off. All of these occurances can be easily paired with minor problems.

Sqeal = belt.
No alternator = drained battery.
Car died = oil light/no PS.

The battery might have had enough juice in it to run the lights etc, after the car died for only about an hour.

Wait until you hear the news to think it's anything worse. Keep us posted.

 

[Blitzeclips]

Car died = oil light/no PS.

Now, I don't know about that one.


I'm sticking with my previous statment. I'll put money on the alternator losing it's belt.

 

[totaleclipse_05]

Now, I don't know about that one.

Well if the car did die or if it's in the ON position and not started, yes the oil light is on in the cluster. Also, if the car isn't running, the power steering isn't going to work either. So yeah, I agree with what Josh said about that.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

Now, I don't know about that one.


I'm sticking with my previous statment. I'll put money on the alternator losing it's belt.

Oil light does come on(unless the sender is flawed) and the PS of course will not work with the car off.

 

[Jonathanlc05]

well found out what it was unfortunatly...

timing belt ripped off... bought the car in may and now this happens.

hopefully warranty covered the damage because me putting so much repairs in this car. i think this will be my last eclipse till i buy it brand new. eclipses need alot of repairs

 

[DSMcrazy3]

They don't need alot of repairs. Every car requires maintinence. If it isn't performed on some, you'll pay the consequences.

It's a common rule of thumb to at least inspect the timing belt when you purchase a used car and if you're unsure of when it was last replaced, go ahead and do so.

What was done previously to have warrented?

 

[4UH8ERS]

He said car died=no p/s and oil light, he didnt say p/s went out and oil light came on=car died.

fact: If your power steering belt comes off you lose power steering.
fact: if you alternator belt comes off or snaps you will drain the battery.
fact: If your car dies and your key remains on the on position the oil light will come on.

 

[Jonathanlc05]

car died... ps went out since the engine wasnt moving with timing belts and oil light came on because it was running on battery alone

 

[Jonathanlc05]

ive done ps and alternator belt... ps belt broke 2 weeks ago
ive done tires
i done thermostat
i have to do brakes soon
and possibly a new clutch since its hard to shift sometimes
and possibly the sparkplugs and wires just because i wanted to

there were no symptoms of it breaking. gas was fantastic and no sounds or anything so it shocks me that broke

 

[DSMcrazy3]

car died... ps went out since the engine wasnt moving with timing belts and oil light came on because it was running on battery alone

No... The PS stopped working because the crank pulley stopped moving. There is only 1 timing belt, and the oil light came on because the key was in the "on" position and the car died.

there were no symptoms of it braking. gas was fantastic and no sounds or anything so it shocks me that broke

Don't be so shocked. You're supposed to check the belt visually. Alot of times they don't make sounds etc. They just go, as it did in your case.

 

[oneyedfatguy]

Pick up a Haynes manual or surf the interweb for an owners manual, do all the maintenance that is prescribed up to the mileage of your car and I would guess you will have a much better DSM experience. If you buy a used car just assume no maintenance was done on it.

 

[Jonathanlc05]

great news....

the head gasket busted with all valves bent. possibly cylinder heads damaged. but warranty is going to cover 80% of charges. the total estimate of it being put to together is 1600 dollars estimate. and im going to pay about 500 dollars total estimate.

we worked hard and fought but it paid off and now im getting my car fixed on monday. too bad its not a new head but this is good enough

 

[4UH8ERS]

great news....

the head gasket busted with all valves bent. possibly cylinder heads damaged. but warranty is going to cover 80% of charges.

I doubt the Timing belt breaking would blow your headgasket, but it doesnt really matter because I would advise changing it anyway since your re-doing the timing.

the total estimate of it being put to together is 1600 dollars estimate. and im going to pay about 500 dollars total estimate.

20% of 1600 is only $320 just so you know.

 

[Jonathanlc05]

+tax and a water pump