Ebay Projector HIDS (Good beam cutoff)

[skwon9642]

idk how you can say that they are crap when they are a VAST improvement over the stock headlights and as you back up the "eye brow" dissapears off of the wall. These improved my vision drastically from the stock housings. Im not saying they are "the best" but they are much much better than before.

i say go for it. a retrofit that they are tlaking about cost ALOT more than buying a HID kit...im guessing ## on a budget, thats why ## going with ebay projectors in the first place. obviously with the amount of money u pay for a retrofit, u'll get a much better beam cut off, well, basically everything else will be better, but u'll be broke after that...i say do what u want, dont listen to the nay sayers...

i've seen those "eye brows" on my friend's stock tC housings with halogens and many other projector halogen bulbs, but its fine when i drive infront of them.

 

[Blurred Talon]

i say go for it. a retrofit that they are tlaking about cost ALOT more than buying a HID kit...im guessing ## on a budget, thats why ## going with ebay projectors in the first place. obviously with the amount of money u pay for a retrofit, u'll get a much better beam cut off, well, basically everything else will be better, but u'll be broke after that...i say do what u want, dont listen to the nay sayers...

i've seen those "eye brows" on my friend's stock tC housings with halogens and many other projector halogen bulbs, but its fine when i drive infront of them.

A retro can be done for around $300 (less even) if you shop around. Do not buy parts from eBay because it's all over priced.

Bi-xenon Morimoto Mini Stage III Kit - Complete Kits from The Retrofit Source LLC
There's coupon codes for free shipping from TRS, a days worth of work and you will have proper HIDs on your car and not be ricer.

 

[skwon9642]

A retro can be done for around $300 (less even) if you shop around. Do not buy parts from eBay because it's all over priced.

Bi-xenon Morimoto Mini Stage III Kit - Complete Kits from The Retrofit Source LLC
There's coupon codes for free shipping from TRS, a days worth of work and you will have proper HIDs on your car and not be ricer.

doesnt it cost money to install? how hard is it to install?

 

[Blurred Talon]

Very easy imo but I do retros as a side business.

All you do is bake open the head lights, removed the reflector, remove the bulb shield, insert projector, tighten down nut on the back. Mount them to the car and make sure the rotation is correct (20-30ft from a wall on level ground). Then put the shroud on (might need cutting) and finally reseal the head lights (either in the oven again or with a heat gun). Wire up harness and mount them to the car, done!

 

[skwon9642]

Very easy imo but I do retros as a side business.

All you do is bake open the head lights, removed the reflector, remove the bulb shield, insert projector, tighten down nut on the back. Mount them to the car and make sure the rotation is correct (20-30ft from a wall on level ground). Then put the shroud on (might need cutting) and finally reseal the head lights (either in the oven again or with a heat gun). Wire up harness and mount them to the car, done!

haha easier said than done i guess

 

[Blurred Talon]

It's really not that hard but then again I've done more then 1 retro.

You never learn till you do it is my train of thought .

 

[InfiniteGSX]

I don't understand the people that say "easier said than done" especially w hen it has to do with this. I think a real retrofit is like going to my kitchen right now and making a pizza! Its that easy.

There are soooo many companies that make kits and if you can get a hookup you can do shit for almost nothing. My friend Dom is about to put Porsche Projectors/HID's into his Honda Civic and he hasn't spent a dime cause he knows someone that works in the garage at Porsche.

Maybe its just me, But I never once looked at something soooooo easy to do and said "that looks hard".

Buy some Projectors, S2K, FX, Lexus, BMW, Whatever! Get the HID's to go with! Start Retrofitting! you never enjoy your car till you start actually getting your hands dirty!

If thats too hard for you, Get one of the kits BluredTalon is talking about. I have a post about them in this same area, they are made for people that don't know how to clean their own dishes or change the channel on their own tv. Exactly what he said is what you do. All you do is pre heat your oven to 200 degrees, put the headlight in for a few minutes, pull them out and seperate them. Its very easy, only part that sucks is how hot it all is. You actually DO NOT have to remove the reflector, since they bolt into the reflector. But what you do is remove the nut from the Retrofit housing (that was pre made for multiple different headlight sockets like 9004 and H4). Slide the housing into the reflector as level as you can get it (you will adjust later if needed), put the nut on the back side, tighten down, warm up the housing again and put it back together. Wire up and bolt up to your car! If you need to adjust, go for it!

(Comment from my Car Illiterate Girlfriend: Its easier than baking a cake)

One more thing, you think your ebay cheap headlights has a good cutoff? Here is a crappy picture of my old 2g's Ebay Headlights Cutoff, crappy picture but you can tell that its 1000000000000000x better than that. I put HID's in them and sure had some bright light, but if you think your getting better than stock, your out of your mind!

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The cutoff was crystal clear and sharp with HID's but still hardly any light on the ground where its supposed to be.

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[skwon9642]

haha exactly...its easy when u have some hook ups and what not, but a legit retro is still about 300 dollars...plus labor if u don't DIY...i said easier said than done because the thread starter seemed like he was looking for a budget solution...since he already has the ebay projectors, buying a good set of HIDs would cost him about 100 dollars MAX. besides, no matter what people say, a legit HIDs or HIDs on stock housings are blinding to other traffic. i get blinded everytime i go infront of a car with HIDs. im not talking about HIDs in reflector lamps, im talking about cars like lexus, bmw, TSX etc...its still blinding...atleast to me and everyone i know.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

My HID's in my civic cost me 35 bucks shipped and they are just fine! 5000k H4 high and low with the actuated "bi xenon" bulb.

DIY! How could you not take the initiative. Its not a hard procedure! I mean I may not understand it but how can you think it is, either way you do it. Its not any form of art or something that only a brilliant mind can acheive, its something anyone can do as long as they don't limit their mind to ABCDEFG...

As kids in kindergarten we put paper mache (sp) over a blown up balloon , let it dry and popped the balloon and then we painted it and did all sorts of things. This is no different. Using your imagination to create something. Same concept when we were older and played with Lego's. Some of us took it to the next level and actually made models. A 8 year old Chinese boy developed a Lego replica of a battleship that is too big to fit in my room. It all goes hand in hand with your imagination.

A Full Retrofit can cost cheap or expensive, however you want to take it. A few companies sell Retrofit housings that are made for people that are not imaginative and don't know how to work the TV Remote! Go with one of those. Buy the kit, heat your oven to 250, place the object inside for a few minutes, pull out and seperate, clean up some of the rubberized glue, install the housing, tighten it down, put the peices back together, adjust and wire up. Its honestly that simple. Other than that real retrofit kits are just a tad more than that. Seperate your lenses and mod them to hold the Projector lens. If you know how to work with tools and the uses of tools then you cannot go wrong.

and it just isn't for the people with hookups. There are hundreds of threads on DSMTuners, Honda Tech, Bla Bla Bla.... so on, every car forum on earth, about DIY Retrofits. So there is more than enough info available to come up with some high end retrofit for very cheap. A few people here already has given alot of info. Look into some of my threads and others. use the Search button, thats what its there for. People have given an uncalculating amount of info regards to pricing and purchasing and how to's and everything.

. i get blinded everytime i go infront of a car with HIDs. im not talking about HIDs in reflector lamps, im talking about cars like lexus, bmw, TSX etc...its still blinding...atleast to me and everyone i know.

There are many reasons for your problems. One is bad alignment, car height, position, street position and angle. Which is why alot of new cars are coming with auto adjusting housings. But General rule of thumb in aligning headlights is Measure from the ground to the center dot of your headlights (the headlights should have a dog right infront of the center of the bulb or projector). Then with your car positioned 20ft away from a wall on a complete level su rface, adjust the headlights so that the "cutoff" is that exact same distance from the ground. And also measure the distance between the dot on one headlight and the other and do the same kind of adjustment, 20ft away is the general rule of thumb. That way your headlights are completely level, anything below that line will be blinded and anything above it wont be. Some cars will have a heavy load in the trunk or many passengers which will cause the alignment to be void and will cause the same problem. as well as bad road conditions or bad suspension on the vehicle. and many other reasons Like dirty lenses, hazy lenses, damaged lenses.

As for trucks I cannot give an answer about how alignment should be since their headlights are much higher than our heads as we sit in our cars.

But I guarantee, if you install HID's in those headlights you will be wasting your money. That strange fuzzy worm thing on top is what blinds people, not only to mention that the light output wont be much better than what it already is. Compared to Stock lighting, Stock owns! Do the research, you wont regret it.

How can you be blinded if your eyes are above this cutoff? The light above is almost non existant. What blinds you is whats below and not adjusted right!

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[Blurred Talon]

The height on the wall should be 2" lower then the height on the car, as per the DOT. The beam needs a 2" drop at 20ft.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

The height on the wall should be 2" lower then the height on the car, as per the DOT. The beam needs a 2" drop at 20ft.

Ok I wasn't exactly sure but that makes more sense. Thx.

 

[bsbllfit7]

so i ended up getting the hids, i am installing them tomorrow and will post up pictures then.

 

[Boston]

idk how you can say that they are crap when they are a VAST improvement over the stock headlights and as you back up the "eye brow" dissapears off of the wall. These improved my vision drastically from the stock housings. Im not saying they are "the best" but they are much much better than before.

Go for the HIDs! I have a similar halogen projector lights on my GSX that came from ebay, and I am planning on upgrading them too.

I have seen the same housing as we have, who had HIDs installed. They looked sick and there was no trace of that 'eyebrow' thing. There is a shop local to me where you can buy them and have them installed for pretty cheap if you don't feel like messing with it. (much cheaper than the 1-2K option check at the dealer anyway)

 

[bsbllfit7]

im just wondering how i will route the wires through the back of the headlight housing it has a rubber backing instead of a plastic one like the stock headlights, should i just cut a hole through the rubber and then silicone it back together?

 

[whyadsm]

Sorry for brining up old thread, but I have bad luck. I order these projector headlight off ebay along with xtune hid kit. The hid kit came with one bad bulb, I need a replacement bulb but I dont know the size of it. I threw away the hid kit box. Does anybody know what size they are? Thanks!

 

[Blurred Talon]

The bulb will be whatever size the projector takes.
I think most eBay projectors are H1s but don't quote me on that.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

I found 7 cars at the Local U Pull It (And we don't usually have shit for good crap) with HID's!

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Not bad for 10 bucks

 

[ramsack]

Of course if you put an HID bulb in any housing YOU are going to see better, but this is selfish and there are other people on the road who have to be blinded by your rice lights. People bi*** about REAL HIDs, but if they were so bad then they would have never been DOT approved. I'm gonna go so far to say that the people who install clear lenses on HID housings piss me off with their rainbow effect on the cutoff. I wish more people would get in trouble for the crappy conversions, no one around here ever does. It's just tint and exhaust.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

Its been proven that the HID Bulb is actually easier on the eyes than Halogen. Even if its blinding you from Glare, its better than a Halogen glare.

I get a headache when traveling at night looking at those dull crappy halogen lights. HID's even when done wrong are more soothing to me.

However Nobody can say shit about my HID's on my Civic. I got a real D2R Setup which in my honest opinion has 100% less glare than stock. Love those D2R Blockoff Cylinders

 

[blackGSX2g]

Its been proven that the HID Bulb is actually easier on the eyes than Halogen. Even if its blinding you from Glare, its better than a Halogen glare.

Glare is glare...doesn't matter the color. The HID beam output (what you see on the ground) has proven easier on the eye than halogen because it's much closer to daylight.

Nice pickup for $10 from your local yard. Should have grabbed the projectors also and you would have a perfect retro setup!