Ebay Projector HIDS (Good beam cutoff)

[bsbllfit7]

hey everyone i was wondering if my projector headlights are a good candidate for the hid upgrade. I know that people say that the reason you dont want to do this is because the projectors are of crappy quality and dont have a good clean beam cutoff. I took a picture of my cutoff the other day and it looks very clean. Granted my left headlight isnt properly positioned it still looks good. Lemme know what you guys think of these as i would like to upgrade to a hid kit.

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and sorry about the garbage can in the way haha.

 

[ncampos92562]

That actually looks pretty good except for the weird "eyebrow" things above the cutoff. What type of ebays are these? Any pics?

 

[bsbllfit7]

i bought them so long ago that the transaction details arent available so i cant tell exactly what ones they are but they are exactly similar to these ones

95 96 Eclipse Eagle/Talon Halo Projector Headlights BLK : eBay Motors (item 290426686348 end time Apr-21-10 20:34:35 PDT)

and here is a picture of them on my car.

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the headlights are adjustable up and down and side to side as well. both the high beam and low beams are adjustable. They produce great light on the road and dont produce glare. I have my girlfriend drive in front of me and she said they are not annoying but look fierce and good! Im very happy with these but am thinking of upgrading to hids.

do these look like a good candidate for an hid setup? Im more than down to be a guinea pig for these.

 

[ncampos92562]

Interesting. Did you have to find orange bulbs for the turn signals? I think a set of HIDs would be fine in that, better then OEM at least. As long as you aren't owning the people's eyes in front of you then I think your good.

Try some HIDs in there. Not that expensive for a kit anyway. Check out DDM Tuning's site. My friend runs their kit and the slims are very nice for the price.

 

[bsbllfit7]

no i didnt end up getting an orange bulb i just used the ones from the stock headlights. They fit perfect and gave off a yellowy orange color so i kept them. they arent white or anything. The halos work well in these too. Good buy for the money and next check im gonna order a sharp hid kit. Just need to find out what size bulbs these are. Once i know that then im set, anyone have any clue what size they might be?

 

[InfiniteGSX]

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I say no, No and Hell NO! The ebay headlights just aren't worthy of an HID Adaption Kit. Honestly do a Projector Retrofit with REAL HID's, you wont' regret it. With the most intense light you could ever imagine. I've seen people put HID's in the aftermarket headlights and it just is too wrong.

What you want is this:

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My favorite, S2k Projectors, 1st Gen, they seem to have the widest beam out of all I've seen and have read up on.

Here's ONE single FX-R Projector:

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[ziggo0]

^^cant wait to be blinded by that

 

[bsbllfit7]

Ok those are good lights but why cant these be turned into hids? I already have a good beam cutoff and a very wide angle of view, the bulb intensity should be the only thing that is changing here. There wont be excessive glare and there are adjustment controls on both hi's and low's to move up down and left right. The problem that people have said over and over with these lights are that they dont have a good beam cutoff and produce bad glare. You already saw the sharp cutoff of my lights although they do need adjustment right now

 

[mnr88talon]

Ok those are good lights but why cant these be turned into hids? I already have a good beam cutoff and a very wide angle of view, the bulb intensity should be the only thing that is changing here. There wont be excessive glare and there are adjustment controls on both hi's and low's to move up down and left right. The problem that people have said over and over with these lights are that they dont have a good beam cutoff and produce bad glare. You already saw the sharp cutoff of my lights although they do need adjustment right now

I have to agree, no one ever gives a good reason for this other than cutoff and my ebay projectors have excellent cutoff as well. If someone could chime in and clarify this that would be cool. I have a pair of HID's im waiting to install although im heavily considering just going back to stock just because the LOOK of the stock headlight looks better.

 

[bsbllfit7]

you should have gone with the black or smoke housings, the chrome doesnt look as good on a dark colored car. On a silver or white car they would look good though. And as for your hid kit is it the right sized bulbs for your projectors?

 

[ncampos92562]

no i didnt end up getting an orange bulb i just used the ones from the stock headlights. They fit perfect and gave off a yellowy orange color so i kept them. they arent white or anything. The halos work well in these too. Good buy for the money and next check im gonna order a sharp hid kit. Just need to find out what size bulbs these are. Once i know that then im set, anyone have any clue what size they might be?

I'm guessing the bulbs are H1's. Looking through ebay at all the projectors like those. Almost all of them say H1 as low beam. Then it's split for high beams between H1's and 9005's.

 

[bsbllfit7]

would there be a way of telling from just looking at the bulb. would it be written somewhere on the bulb or housing? and if not would i be able to compare it to pictures of bulbs online or is there too little of differences to tell from a picture? Ill check tomorrow

 

[mnr88talon]

would there be a way of telling from just looking at the bulb. would it be written somewhere on the bulb or housing? and if not would i be able to compare it to pictures of bulbs online or is there too little of differences to tell from a picture? Ill check tomorrow

I honestly like the white housing of the headlight because I had silver wheels and it went well together. It's just that theres this ripple design on the back of the housing that looks really gayy, which is why i just wanna go back to stock.

Anyways, if i remember correctly I think it might say on the bulb somewhere but I just went on ebay and checked the same set of headlights that i got. Think the ad on ebay said they were H1's.

 

[bsbllfit7]

i think these are gonna look good with hids! My beam pattern is very wide and crisp, the bulbs just arent bright enough to see it well! Also they need to be aligned properly haha

 

[bsbllfit7]

checked the bulbs in the low beams today and they are h1 bulbs. But it also said they were 55 watt bulbs. So when i order my kit should i order the 35w kit for the low beams and 55 for high beams or get 55w hid kits for both hi and low beams?

 

[ncampos92562]

Hi beam hids are pointless IMO. Because they have to have time to heat up when turned on. Most people need to be able to flick Hi's on and off quickly. With hids, you have to wait.

So kind of pointless in my opinion.

And wattage is for brightness. 35w is a bit dimmer then the 55w but still bright as hell.

 

[bsbllfit7]

ok so scratch the high beam hid kit then, which do you recommend then for the low beams? Should i stay with the 55w like the current bulb i have or go with the 35w kit. Im not sure how much brighter the 35w will be than the 55w i have in there now. But should i just go for the maximum brightness and get the 55?

 

[blackGSX2g]

Yes; for headlights off of eBay, those look pretty decent. But remember, those were designed around a halogen bulb...probably based in H3. The light output and focal point of an HID bulb are completely different.

And the comment about being blinded by an FX, S2K, or any other OEM HID projector...if you do it right it is 100% the same as a DOT approved OEM vehicle. No difference than the headlights on a brand new BMW if you were to get one.

Trust me, engineers spend lots of time tweaking the light output of certain OEM projectors to meet certain standards. It's worth it to use their expertise. Pick the projector that has the right beam pattern, cut-off, etc that you like and retrofit it. Quit trying to replicate all the nice OEM HID cars and just use what they do. You will appreciate the difference. Trust me.

 

[bsbllfit7]

anyone? Should i be going with the 35w or 55w bulbs?

 

[2GturboTALON]

If you want a cheap and easy way to do HID , buy the new morimoto mini H1. Their light output and cutoff is darn close to FXR and are also 100 times easier to install. I am going to do a set myself when i round up some more money. They are bi-xenon so you get high and low in one projector.

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[Blurred Talon]

With the hot spots you have above your projectors, I wouldn't bother if an HID kit in them. There will be a lot of glare. If you are up for it, see if you can bend the shields with a pick to get rid of the hot spot, if you can then a HID kit might work.
People are against kits for many reasons, glare is a big one. Then the quality of the ebay housings is spotty and since HID kit bulbs run hot you've got the posibility of burning up the projector's reflector bowl.

I've got a set of 2Gb ebay projectors on my car, however the eBay parts have been gutted and replaced with FX-R projectors (4 total for a quad set up). It's still a work in progress but here's a couple pictures with 2 of the projectors on with Morimoto 5000K bulbs and 50W ballasts (rotation is slightly off to the passenger side and the weathered lens softened my cut off).
The bulbs are not this blue, dunno why it looks like that in this picture.

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Inside the car, tons of foreground, wall is 30ft away.

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Hands down the BEST thing I've done to my Talon since owning it. The factory halogens can't even compare.

 

[bsbllfit7]

when you do the retro fit, do the stock projectors just come out and the other ones screw into place? That is the only thing holding me back from doing it is the uncertainties of how it holds in place and any other stuff i would need to do to seal the housing up after the swap

 

[Blurred Talon]

No, you will have to make new mounts, check my retrofit thread out.

I'm using the sealant that the lights already had, just heated them up with a heat gun and clamped them together.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

You've said you have a good cutoff a few times. But in your pictures all I saw was...

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I've seen fog lights, hell I've seen flash lights put out better light than your headlights. Listen to blackGSX2g and myself. If you had a good cutoff you wouldn't have that funky worm thing above. Thats just wrong. That is the crap thats blinding people. And not to mention its actually just a fog light installed in a head light. Thats why they say "made for offroad use only" and shit like that. Those Projector beams I posted light up the entire ground infront of your car. Hell even a Hyundai Tiburon Non HID Projector puts out damn good quality light without the HID's. Yours are just flood lights with a plate halfway through.

Do it right man!

 

[bsbllfit7]

idk how you can say that they are crap when they are a VAST improvement over the stock headlights and as you back up the "eye brow" dissapears off of the wall. These improved my vision drastically from the stock housings. Im not saying they are "the best" but they are much much better than before.