E-bay Exhaust manifold

[Kmiller86]

Hey. I have a BR580 and wanted to know if this exhaust manifold would fit it. Also, what are your thoughts of this Manifold with the o2 housing. Thanks

 

[Burnett03]

Hey. I have a BR580 and wanted to know if this exhaust manifold would fit it. Also, what are your thoughts of this Manifold with the o2 housing. Thanks

what exhaust manifold? there are 100's on ebay..... i hope its not ss autochrome.. why would you buy such an expensive turbo then go to ebay for a cheap manifold? whats wrong with your stock 2g manifold?

 

[Kmiller86]

Sorry i forgot to attatch the link. but i looked again and it was an ssautochrome. i didnt see the name on the page it was in small print. im looking for a new exhaust manifold becasue mine has a crack in it.

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

You do not want that manifold unless you want to reweld it every 5 minutes. If you want to see more info or pics on this manifold you can do a search on here for ssautochrome and find alot of stuff, or you can just read his feedback...

 

[DSMvroom]

I say give 'em a shot. I know they have a horrible reputation (for quality and customer service) but from the looks of their new manifolds they have out they seem pretty decent. The welds are now TIG welded which is good.

Contact them about their warranty policy and how they would handle a warranty situation because they are offering a lifetime warranty against quality and worksmanship. If you like what you hear, then try them out!

I've been looking on ebay for EVO III 16g turbos and their manifolds keep showing up in my search and I must say they look like very nice pieces.

 

[DSMJim]

I say give 'em a shot. I know they have a horrible reputation (for quality and customer service) but from the looks of their new manifolds they have out they seem pretty decent. The welds are now TIG welded which is good.

Contact them about their warranty policy and how they would handle a warranty situation because they are offering a lifetime warranty against quality and worksmanship. If you like what you hear, then try them out!

I've been looking on ebay for EVO III 16g turbos and their manifolds keep showing up in my search and I must say they look like very nice pieces.

Yes but they are infact junk. DO NOT BUY ONE. Looks have nothing to do with it. They have ALWAYS been tig welded. Being tig welded does not make them strong. The material is just so damned thin that they do not last, it's just that simple.

JUNK JUNK JUNK!!!

 

[CanadianTSi]

Buy a SBR manifold and port your stock o2 housing and you won't ahve to wrry about anything breaking.

 

[98turbo]

I stand behind mine. It's been through a lot of abuse and is still holding strong.

 

[Kmiller86]

well thanks for all of the replys. i will look into their warranty policy a little more and see what its like and let you guys know. Thanks again.

 

[hellotbone]

I saw an SS autojunk manifold that a shop was putting on a Honda where the WG flange met the runner it wasn't a round hole it was like someone took a hammer and chisel and knocked the hole out.

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

They can claim to have a great warranty policy all day long, but if they don't actually stand behind that warranty it is no good! I am telling you, read his feedback, that should tell you all you need to know!

 

[Sharkcus]

Tommy: Let's think about this for a sec, Ted, why do they put a guarantee on a box? Hmm, very interesting.
Ted: I'm listening.
Tommy: Here's how I see it. A guy puts a guarantee on the box 'cause he wants you to fell all warm and toasty inside.
Ted: Yeah, makes a man feel good.
Tommy: 'Course it does. Ya think if you leave that box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter.
Ted: What's your point?
Tommy: The point is, how do you know the Guarantee Fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy, but we're not buying it. Next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser and your daughter's knocked up, I seen it a hundred times.
Ted: But why do they put a guarantee on the box then?
Tommy: Because they know all they solda ya was a guaranteed piece of sh-t. That's all it is. Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time.

 

[GSXlaunch]

Thats gonna leave a mark!

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

Tommy: Let's think about this for a sec, Ted, why do they put a guarantee on a box? Hmm, very interesting.
Ted: I'm listening.
Tommy: Here's how I see it. A guy puts a guarantee on the box 'cause he wants you to fell all warm and toasty inside.
Ted: Yeah, makes a man feel good.
Tommy: 'Course it does. Ya think if you leave that box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter.
Ted: What's your point?
Tommy: The point is, how do you know the Guarantee Fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy, but we're not buying it. Next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser and your daughter's knocked up, I seen it a hundred times.
Ted: But why do they put a guarantee on the box then?
Tommy: Because they know all they solda ya was a guaranteed piece of sh-t. That's all it is. Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time.

GREAT way to put it and GREAT movie!

 

[hellotbone]

I say give 'em a shot. I know they have a horrible reputation (for quality and customer service) but from the looks of their new manifolds they have out they seem pretty decent. The welds are now TIG welded which is good.

Contact them about their warranty policy and how they would handle a warranty situation because they are offering a lifetime warranty against quality and worksmanship. If you like what you hear, then try them out!

I've been looking on ebay for EVO III 16g turbos and their manifolds keep showing up in my search and I must say they look like very nice pieces.

Tig doesn't mean better TIG puts ALOT more heat in to a piece being welded that being said more of a chance of cracking if done wrong. SS is a tough thing to work with.

 

[jdm4g63]

I am seemingly one of the few people on here with a pic of ssautochrome hardware. I have had no problems with it. Many people will undoubtedly tell you that it sucks and that their brother's cousin had one and it exploded and killed him but ask them if they personally have seen, touched or used one. I'd bet that they would say no.

It cost $175 for the manifold and wastegate. Now on ebay you can get the manifold and wastegate plus a turbonetics 50 trim kit and bov for around $650. Now if that is not worth a try I don't know what is.

However a dnp tubular and a bolt-on 50trim would cost just a little bit more. Make you decision on that, not hearsay.

 

[CanadianTSi]

You get what you pay for...

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

I am seemingly one of the few people on here with a pic of ssautochrome hardware. I have had no problems with it. Many people will undoubtedly tell you that it sucks and that their brother's cousin had one and it exploded and killed him but ask them if they personally have seen, touched or used one. I'd bet that they would say no.

It cost $175 for the manifold and wastegate. Now on ebay you can get the manifold and wastegate plus a turbonetics 50 trim kit and bov for around $650. Now if that is not worth a try I don't know what is.

However a dnp tubular and a bolt-on 50trim would cost just a little bit more. Make you decision on that, not hearsay.

You dont even have the stud in on the exhaust manifold on the left side of that pic

 

[awdtaylon]

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[awdtaylon]

its up to you bro... you see that picture above???? looks nice right??? thats the before now lets look at the after...


[Too big]

 

[awdtaylon]

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[jdm4g63]

Okay awdtaylon. That is the millionth time that I I've seen that old pic. For one thing that pic is of a Honda so it is a whole different product. Unlike Honda's, dsms have a brace on the dp so that the full weight of the turbo is not supported by the exhaust manifold. Many previous threads on this site have established the difference between the ssautochrome products for dsms and the ones for Hondas.

Take a good look at that collector. It looks nothing like mine and in actuality looks more like the design from the crappy pacesetter manifold for our cars. The flange collecting the manifold to the wastegate in that pic is maybe all of 1/8" thick where mine is a 1/4" thick. Plus those welds are horrible and don't resemble the ones on my manifold at all.


Also my pic is not a before pic. It has been on like that since this past December and still looks the same way.

Like I said, I am one of the few people to have this product with pictures and experience.



Gilztsiawd...yeah yeah I'm a lazy arse and haven't got around to tapping that stud but that's my fault. By the way, nice bodykit.

 

[Revolution]

Okay awdtaylon. That is the millionth time that I I've seen that old pic. For one thing that pic is of a Honda so it is a whole different product. Unlike Honda's, dsms have a brace on the dp so that the full weight of the turbo is not supported by the exhaust manifold. Many previous threads on this site have established the difference between the ssautochrome products for dsms and the ones for Hondas.

Take a good look at that collector. It looks nothing like mine and in actuality looks more like the design from the crappy pacesetter manifold for our cars. The flange collecting the manifold to the wastegate in that pic is maybe all of 1/8" thick where mine is a 1/4" thick. Plus those welds are horrible and don't resemble the ones on my manifold at all.


Also my pic is not a before pic. It has been on like that since this past December and still looks the same way.

Like I said, I am one of the few people to have this product with pictures and experience.



Gilztsiawd...yeah yeah I'm a lazy arse and haven't got around to tapping that stud but that's my fault. By the way, nice bodykit.

I agree whole heartedly with jdm4g63 on this one. I hate misinformation , why because I can bet my car that half if not 3/4 of the tuners whom have posted in this thread never owned the 4g63 tubular manifold from ssautochrome. I know because I've seen their cars and have spoken with them face to face (Canadian tuners that is), funny how they've never shown me their blown up ss-manifold at any yorkdale meet b4.

I own one and think it was honestly just a good a buy as my magnus sheet metal intake manifold. My exh mani looks exactly like jdm4g63' but with out the wastegate runner off of the collector.

I have a huge brace off of my 3 inch o2 housing that bolts to the block. Not one crack yet,and thats even after driving in grid lock traffic under a very heavy rain fall, and guess what guys I have a huge gaping whole in my hood right over my manifold thats meant to scavenge the heat from the engine bay.

I'm living proof that this manifold is worth it and if you cant take my word for it ask Radeem from Metalex Motorworks in Toronto Canada our "other" local dsm specialist.

I'm not pointing fingers or trying to be a jerk , but unless you have first hand experience with this specific manifold then please don't post hearsay about the 4g63 ss autochrome tubular manifold.

I will say this though ,I bought mine off of a local vendor whom got it from koumotorsports.com, not ssautochrome themselves ,and after reading his feedback responses I would snap his leg in half, If I had.

I dont like his remarks but I cant gauge the work on his behalf.

In the end it's your choice but any tubular manifold is an upgrade over cast. Good luck

 

[jdm4g63]

What's this...another voice of reason?
Revolution you hit it on the head. Hearsay is not supposed to be posted last time I checked.

You did bring up a good point about the origin of ssautochrome products. They do seem to be of differing quality depending upon where they are from. More importantly the customer service is dramatically different. I got mine on ebay and I guess that I was lucky because some people have had a terrible experience with the customer service there.

If you want more info on this product, do a search on this site. There is a long drawn out thread called Why not to use ssautochrome, and many others just like it. You will find that either people just say it sucks because that is what they have heard. Or vendors who say it sucks because they are bitter about a company making a copy of their wonderful products. (Maybe they can take some generic aspirin to calm their headache about that one.) Then you have the rare owner of the product who says its great.

Just an observation.

 

[SpoOLxExO]

Tig doesn't mean better TIG puts ALOT more heat in to a piece being welded that being said more of a chance of cracking if done wrong. SS is a tough thing to work with.

Actually I have to correct you. Tungsten gas welding, or TIG has variable heat control via a pedal. You can control the voltage or heat on the fly. TIG is used when sheet metal 18-24 guage needs to be welded together. A MIG gun will burn right through stuff that thin.

The point is, even thought its TIG welded whos welding it? TIG IMHO is the best, cleanest looking method for welding, but if a 6-year old is holding the torch it doesn't matter how good the welding equipment is, you know?

Besides it looks like they were trying to weld that header together with some .020 filler anyways, wich is weak.