DSM T3/T4 turbo kit on Ebay

[gsxstac]

i'm sure there is also no R&D involved either, plus i'd love to see inside some of the runners where the bends are, could be all kidna of metal in there on the walls. the kit is just cheap garbage made by underpaid foreigners. compare that manifold to full-race.com's manifold and you'll see what i'm talking about. full-race's manifold is 1200 and up though, but with that you a lifetime warrantied real-deal manifold.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

i'm sure there is also no R&D involved either, plus i'd love to see inside some of the runners where the bends are, could be all kidna of metal in there on the walls. the kit is just cheap garbage made by underpaid foreigners. compare that manifold to full-race.com's manifold and you'll see what i'm talking about. full-race's manifold is 1200 and up though, but with that you a lifetime warrantied real-deal manifold.

 

[Bailzz]

If you read some of his feedback like I did you would never think of buying anything from this guy. I feel sorry for anyone who has had to deal with him, exspecially his customer service. Someone needs to take him out back and give him the beating of his life. The webpage for that civic (sorrydont remember who) is all the info you would need on this guy and I'm glad I read it so I know to stay clear of anything this guy sells. Someone spends $500 and gets a blown turbo, leaves negative feedback and he replys with WAAAHHHH, WWAAAAHHH, MOMMIE, MOMMIE........WTF is wrong with him. If he does not care about his feedback or his representation of his company then why would he care about the quality of his product? Or should I say.... ....oduct

 

[Ben K]

Oh and for the turbo guru that said Master Power CHRAs are Garrett or "just like Garrett" is wrong. You can't use a Garrett or Garrett based thrust setup in a Master Power turbo. The copied an old Schwitzer S2B thrust. I've been throwing these things away lately as they seem to never last.

I love people buying these Garrett knock off turbos, because I get to sell them the real parts after a few hundred miles.

Give me your address and I'll start sending these disposable turbos to you, since you think they are 'just as good'.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

Oh and for the turbo guru that said Master Power CHRAs are Garrett or "just like Garrett" is wrong. You can't use a Garrett or Garrett based thrust setup in a Master Power turbo. The copied an old Schwitzer S2B thrust. I've been throwing these things away lately as they seem to never last.

I love people buying these Garrett knock off turbos, because I get to sell them the real parts after a few hundred miles.

Give me your address and I'll start sending these disposable turbos to you, since you think they are 'just as good'.

good call ben, i had a customer bring one of these in and said it was a garrett turbo he wanted to me to have it repaired and i told him this wasnt a garrett turbo. he swore it was and thats when i found out about this master power crap. i tried finding any kind of contact info for them so i could try to help this guy out. they way i see if you cant find a phone number for someone in about 30 seconds thats a good indication of who they are.

 

[Revolution]

:thumbdown Not cool guys . I realized my kou manifold was a ssautochrome manifold , but then again it was ported and polished where the flange and collectors met just to enshure the best flow. The square flange was also ported to properly match the turbine housing . I havnt had the manifold crack and I have boosted the evo turbo into the 20 plus psi range . But yes the wall thickness is a bit thin . I am not stating that the (ebay) turbo is great nor the spring's can hold preassure in the wastegate , but I am saying that my manifold for some reason doesnt fall in the same category as the peice of crap mani everyone swears they are.

Im only giving my first hand experience about this manifold ,and I would also like to hear anyone elses first hand experience too.

My thoughts are as folows I will always support the idea of buying a cheaper product from a lesser known company if it does what its ment to do, like direct exhaust flow or do what a turbo is supposed to do use the exducer wheel to inturn induce and compress air on the positive side.

Guys stop hating and instead of down grading ppl whom want to try this out support them , if they ask for you'r opinion ,dont say it's crap dont say it's shit , actually state why it's a poorer product , like the center housing cartridge is outdated and inferior to the new garret cartidges. Be specific, tell me and everyone else why something is ,In you'r opinion of less use then say a dnp or a fp.

Now dont hide behinde the names of these companies , because any joe blow can say "well fp makes their own housings,, so thats why their known ,,,,and yeah thats why their the best,,, " man I already know the top runners use their top secret turbos and I already know they make their own housings but why does this brazilian company whom probably assembles turbos for large deisel truck comapnies not to be trusted?

Man I want the facts not this he said she said nonsens , so guys im a consumer whom likes the info to hold water , not to hold a load of shit that just says it's shit because it's smells like it . You see shit brings more shit ,so just drop the laziness and back up you'r comments.

 

[huafist]

They're not "hating on" - God, I hate that ghetto-assed term - them. They're telling, based on FACTS and EXPERIENCE, what has been happening with poor quality products. If you like it, good for you, I hope it works fine, but it seems you would be an aberration.

 

[ZenkaiRacerDsM]

Port and polish on a tubular manifold eh?

 

[NyQuiL07]

:thumbdown Not cool guys . I realized my kou manifold was a ssautochrome manifold , but then again it was ported and polished where the flange and collectors met just to enshure the best flow. The square flange was also ported to properly match the turbine housing . I havnt had the manifold crack and I have boosted the evo turbo into the 20 plus psi range . But yes the wall thickness is a bit thin . I am not stating that the (ebay) turbo is great nor the spring's can hold preassure in the wastegate , but I am saying that my manifold for some reason doesnt fall in the same category as the peice of crap mani everyone swears they are.

Does kou do anything different to the ssautochrome mani? or is it just another retailer for them? Ive seen another person with the mani from kou and his hadnt cracked yet either.

 

[Revolution]

yeah a pot and polish job on a tubulare manifold.

I'll explain,, when my mani was dropped off, it was slightly ported where the runners met the flanges ,why I guess becuase of flow?

Well, point being I got each runner polished (smoothed out) where it had been ported so I wouldnt worry about the," what if that shitty port job is hurting the flow situation".

Now my only beef about this mani was it came with a bloddy square flange opening wich posed a problem because my turbos inlet on the exhaust housing was a circle opening.

I got my local vendor to port it out where the pipes met the flange on an angle to make the desired opening (circle to match the turbo).

Hence the port and polish. now I dont think that would cause a problem considering it was addressed.

As for the wall thikness it was addressed by jet coating it to keep the heat inside making the turbo spool faster.

Well I havnt had any problems with my mani ,and i paid 300 usd including the porting for it.

 

[vr_civic]

I noticed most of the bad feedback on the cracking manifolds came from honda manifolds. Maybe the Dsm manifolds isn't designed as bad as everyone thinks it is. I know 2 guys with the ssautochrome sr20 mainfolds that have no problems with them. These are 12 sec. daily driven cars. It just led me to think only the honda mani is crap. With his bad attitude, I would never buy from him. i have yet to hear that his dsm mani is crap and I person saying that it's good. Just my .02 (This is from a neutral stance BTW)

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

:thumbdown Not cool guys . I realized my kou manifold was a ssautochrome manifold , but then again it was ported and polished where the flange and collectors met just to enshure the best flow. The square flange was also ported to properly match the turbine housing . I havnt had the manifold crack and I have boosted the evo turbo into the 20 plus psi range . But yes the wall thickness is a bit thin . I am not stating that the (ebay) turbo is great nor the spring's can hold preassure in the wastegate , but I am saying that my manifold for some reason doesnt fall in the same category as the peice of crap mani everyone swears they are.

Im only giving my first hand experience about this manifold ,and I would also like to hear anyone elses first hand experience too.

My thoughts are as folows I will always support the idea of buying a cheaper product from a lesser known company if it does what its ment to do, like direct exhaust flow or do what a turbo is supposed to do use the exducer wheel to inturn induce and compress air on the positive side.

Guys stop hating and instead of down grading ppl whom want to try this out support them , if they ask for you'r opinion ,dont say it's crap dont say it's shit , actually state why it's a poorer product , like the center housing cartridge is outdated and inferior to the new garret cartidges. Be specific, tell me and everyone else why something is ,In you'r opinion of less use then say a dnp or a fp.

Now dont hide behinde the names of these companies , because any joe blow can say "well fp makes their own housings,, so thats why their known ,,,,and yeah thats why their the best,,, " man I already know the top runners use their top secret turbos and I already know they make their own housings but why does this brazilian company whom probably assembles turbos for large deisel truck comapnies not to be trusted?

Man I want the facts not this he said she said nonsens , so guys im a consumer whom likes the info to hold water , not to hold a load of shit that just says it's shit because it's smells like it . You see shit brings more shit ,so just drop the laziness and back up you'r comments.

i can completey understand and respect your stand point but let me tell you where i am coming from.....

We have seen many of these manifolds on SR20s and 4g63s and i have seen all but one crack. i think they are made very poorly and i have to always see people disappointed after spending their hard earned money.

with the turbo, it blew up at 14psi. this one in particular was listed as a T3/T4 on the ad and thats why he bought it. the ad was very misleading and the kid got stuck with a POS paper weight.

There are way too many people being burned out there by misleading knock off products or just bad quality to begin with. and normally vendors are the ones who get the calls with people complaining and im sure i speak for many vendors on here that we try to do the best we can to help a customer in a situation like this but there is in only much you can do before you have to tell a guy that he wasted his money and will have to buy the right part for the job.

Sorry to ramble but it pisses me off when people buy things and they can't even find a phone number for this company to help them out when their products takes a dump on them.

I mean to this day i havent found a phone number to contact these people. I found there site at some point and it basically said "Paypal us and we'll send you something"

just my $.02

Marti

 

[boostedinaz]

yeah a pot and polish job on a tubulare manifold.

I'll explain,, when my mani was dropped off, it was slightly ported where the runners met the flanges ,why I guess becuase of flow?

Well, point being I got each runner polished (smoothed out) where it had been ported so I wouldnt worry about the," what if that shitty port job is hurting the flow situation".

Now my only beef about this mani was it came with a bloddy square flange opening wich posed a problem because my turbos inlet on the exhaust housing was a circle opening.

I got my local vendor to port it out where the pipes met the flange on an angle to make the desired opening (circle to match the turbo).

Hence the port and polish. now I dont think that would cause a problem considering it was addressed.

As for the wall thikness it was addressed by jet coating it to keep the heat inside making the turbo spool faster.

Well I havnt had any problems with my mani ,and i paid 300 usd including the porting for it.

I can see porting the flange so it is the same shaape and diameter, however can you explain how a tubular manifold it polished on the inside. I can see maybe smoothing out the welds on the inside, but again, on a quality product none of that would be needed.

Another thing to look at would be taking chances. I would rather but a product that I KNOW is going to work. If I had the money to spend I would just buy a DNP mani and call it a day. I dont want to take a chance that the mani I bought may one day crack and after so many times it will just be junk. So you end up spending about the same amount of money after all the time and energy you have to take it off weld it upi and put it back on. This whole time I am driving around on my DNP. Just my .02 on why "I hate" on cheesy products.

 

[Revolution]

Hey guys , I see where some ppl are coming from , I just didnt want to go through three pages of ppl jumping in on the band wagon saying this and that is shit because ,,,,yeah it just is, you know.

Im glad some of the vendors explained their first hand expeirience with these products ,i on the other hand have not hade anything bad happen so far.


I would be lying if i didnt say i wasnt envious of the guys whom have the $600 plus mani's but i cant rock like that , so I opted for a cheaper mani. Does it get the job done yes , am I satisfied yes .

It came with five support baces on the mani and it did shift the turbo abit , but iether then that it's ok .