DSM T3/T4 turbo kit on Ebay

[boostedinaz]

They do not use garrett center sections, they do use garrett wheels.

I have resealed and rebearing them, and they are Garret Centers.

Are they or are they not Garret???????


No one ever said that all DSM guys have to get the most expensive thing out there. In fact it is quite the opposite. I see alot of people buying or making cheaper parts then you can buy from some dealer. Look at RNR and how they have sold a ton of exhaust systems. Like I have said at least 5 times in this thread most people like to spend there money on something they know will work. Who knows how long this turbo is going to last and how that company backs its product. I KNOW that if I get an AGP or FP turbo none of those worries will be present. Why spend the time to put on a turbo to have it fail and wait for the company to decide if it was your fault or not, then have to put it back on????? Not to mention the down time and possibly having to buy an other turbo if they dont warranty it. You could save your self all that and go with a reputable vendor. Thats my opinion.

 

[ZenkaiRacerDsM]

I want a full ball bearing bling machine!

 

[CanadianTalon]

Well all I know is I've run a few and they have worked flawlessly, used no oil, didn't wear out after 10 thousand miles or anything. I've had better experiences with them than I have with crap turbonetics lately. My dad has been running a MP T70 on his Turbo Regal for over a year and 20 thousand miles, I ran the 62-1 for about 6 months and around 13 thousand miles and it's now on my Brothers daily driven Mustang, and I helped build a twin turbo kit for a friends camaro using a pair of MP T3/TO4E's and I think he has about 10 thousand on it now without issue. Just my 2 cents, I havn't had a bad experience with them.

 

[DannyD]

Even if the turbo is good, it seems like everything else is junk. I have seen many cracked manifolds, and if anything else has the quality of the manifold you will find yourself spending all of the money on just a turbo.

 

[DSMJim]

Lets get this straight.

I am not saying I love master power turbo's , I was just stating the facts. I have resealed and rebearing them, and they are Garret Centers. I have seen them run well and last. They are cheap. If I had the money I would buy the full ball bearing bling machines from FP or anyone else, but if money is tight, these are not a bad buy. DSM guys are funny in the respect that many of us think that if it is not the most expensive part, it is not the best, or even junk.
This is obviously wrong, and I am saying dont dismiss somthing you have never heard of befor.

With this being said, me saying Junk means exactly what your saying here. It's Ok... But there are a lot better turbos out there. There are certian parts that I cheap out on hardcore just like anybody else, and there are parts I dont. Brakes, Tires, Clutch and Turbo are the parts I don't. Everything else I have is home made, jimmy-rigged by myself, or some other cheap ass mod that I did because I didn't wanan spend the money.

I personally am not even happy with the quality of my Turbonetics turbo and it's gonna get launched shortly. It's taken me to some descent times, but I just find the quality of their stuff to be pretty crappy honestly. I think a PTE turbo is in my future with my new motor.

To be fare as soon as I see stuff from SSAutochrome the images of junk just come to mind. Their stuff really is garbage, thought that turbo isn't bad, the fact they rip off Tial WG and BOV and use those crappy ass OBX manifolds kills it for me.

 

[coltboostin]

It is funny that everyone is ripping on turbonetics, my buddies turbonetics just took a crap.

I dont know how that quote came from Canadiantaoln, because I said I have resaled and rebearing a few and they took garret parts.

 

[SpoolnTsi]

stupid ass OBX turbo turbo manifold with thin tubing.

Alright correct me if im wrong here but, isnt that manifold a DNP manifold??? Compared to the one on ebay it looks the same to me and the last time i checked DNP makes a kickass header








What is good about our manifold??

Replace your rusty header with DNP stainless steel exhaust manifold. It is an equal length design with a strong 5 headers support.
DNP manifold designed to maximize the exhaust flow for the fastest turbo spool up.
• better cooling
• weight saving
• stainless steel won’t rust
• say good bye to cracking
• smooth SS piping
• no porting needed

 

[SpoolnTsi]

Alright since the pic didnt show heres a link. Its more towards the bottom so scroll down a bit
http://www.dnperformance.com/eclipse.html

 

[FutureGSXOwner]

To the orignal postee, your ebay auction has ended; hopefully by you..

 

[mxpimp18]

whats the hp rating on the turbo?

 

[DSMJim]

Alright correct me if im wrong here but, isnt that manifold a DNP manifold??? Compared to the one on ebay it looks the same to me and the last time i checked DNP makes a kickass header

Hahahah no thats not a DNP manifold. Not even close. Just because they are both polished do not confuse the two together. This is what the manifold looks like...

http://92civic.tripod.com

This is just the honda version but it's the exact same build from the exact same company ssautochrome with exactly the same parts, just for a honda instead of a talon. I know the guy who owns that car and made that site. I have seen that manifold myself in person and it acctually looks worse in person honestly...

 

[SpoolnTsi]

Hahahah no thats not a DNP manifold. Not even close. Just because they are both polished do not confuse the two together. This is what the manifold looks like...

http://92civic.tripod.com

This is just the honda version but it's the exact same build from the exact same company ssautochrome with exactly the same parts, just for a honda instead of a talon. I know the guy who owns that car and made that site. I have seen that manifold myself in person and it acctually looks worse in person honestly...

Thats not the one pictured in the auction

 

[SpoolnTsi]

So your telling me that this header
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7916979852

Is different from this one????
http://www.dnperformance.com/eclipse.html

 

[boostedinaz]

So your telling me that this header
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7916979852

Is different from this one????
http://www.dnperformance.com/eclipse.html

No they are not the same. I dont understand why it si so hard to believe that if a company is selling a fake Tial BOV and WG plus a cheap turbo that they would throw in a DNP header. That header is 500.00 buy it self so how would you get all that stuff for that price. If you look at the picture you can answer your own question.

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Thats doesnt look like that the one in the autcion.

http://www.stockreco.com/DSC00066.JPG

 

[ZenkaiRacerDsM]

They look very similar in the pics. Once thing I didnt notice different on the DNP is that the runners arent one piece but pieces welded together. While the ebay one is all one mandrel bent piece. And the dnp doesnt have the mount for the external waste gate.

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[SpoolnTsi]

No they are not the same. I dont understand why it si so hard to believe that if a company is selling a fake Tial BOV and WG plus a cheap turbo that they would throw in a DNP header. That header is 500.00 buy it self so how would you get all that stuff for that price. If you look at the picture you can answer your own question.

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Thats doesnt look like that the one in the autcion.

http://www.stockreco.com/DSC00066.JPG

Obviously you didnt scroll down thru the link that i have posted. Try scrolling down towards the bottom of the link this time and then repost.
http://www.dnperformance.com/eclipse.html
I know the one has the external wg flange but you can get both manifolds with or without the wg flange

 

[boostedinaz]

I saw that one too and they are not the same.

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That is not the same as this one. Get over it.



They dont even have the same exact shape. Either way why would a 750.00 dollar turbo kit come with a 500.00 dollar manifold? You have yet to answer that just just keep commenting about some lame ass manifold that looks similar to a high qaulity piece. If it was a DNP then they would advertise that so that people knew they are getting a quality part. This is thread is fu(king dumb. If you like this package so much then buy it and see how long it last.

 

[SpoolnTsi]

I saw that one too and they are not the same.

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That is not the same as this one. Get over it.

They dont even have the same exact shape. Either way why would a 750.00 dollar turbo kit come with a 500.00 dollar manifold? You have yet to answer that just just keep commenting about some lame ass manifold that looks similar to a high qaulity piece. If it was a DNP then they would advertise that so that people knew they are getting a quality part. This is thread is fu(king dumb.

You r 1 cocky sob. All I wanted to know is if they were the same item or not. Yes i understand the price theory and i agree. Would hell freeze over if the rest of the stuff in the auction was a piece of shit and the only good piece in the auction was the manifold??? All i did was ask. There was absolutely no reason to get so defensive. I would never buy the auction cuz it seems to good to be true. You get what you pay for. I honestly believe that the auction was shit but i wasnt sure bout the manifold. Thats y i asked

If you like this package so much why dont you just buy it?

Again, when did i ever say i liked it???

 

[boostedinaz]

You r 1 cocky sob. All I wanted to know is if they were the same item or not. Yes i understand the price theory and i agree. Would hell freeze over if the rest of the stuff in the auction was a piece of shit and the only good piece in the auction was the manifold??? All i did was ask. There was absolutely no reason to get so defensive. I would never buy the auction cuz it seems to good to be true. You get what you pay for. I honestly believe that the auction was shit but i wasnt sure bout the manifold. Thats y i asked



Again, when did i ever say i liked it???

Sorry I have had a VERY long day. I though you were saying they were the same not asking. I did however along with Jim say that they ARE NOT the same. The one in the auction is a POS and will not last long. The DNP is a very nice product and should last along time.

 

[DSMJim]

Oh for the love of GOD!!! NOOOOO IT IS NOT A DNP HEADER. It's a piece of shit OBX header JUST LIKE THE ONE IN THAT WEBSITE I posted. Yes the one in that site is for a Honda, but it's from the same company and the same design/construction. If you buy that kit the header will be of the EXACT SAME QUALITY. I think SSAutochrome makes the header themselves now but its a rip off of OBX's design and they are made in Taiwan. A company I deal with uses many of the same factories for their exhaust components and we have seen their headers being made. They are very cheap construction and total pieces of shit.

If you don't believe me then buy it, why do I give a shit? Have fun enjoy your cracks.

 

[SpoolnTsi]

Thanx for clearing that up for me Jim and boostedinaz. That always bugged the hell outa me whether they were the same headers or not cuz they are so similar. I can see the differences in the quality now that you guys pointed it out. Not that you couldnt find a new item on ebay that actually isnt a piece of shit or anything but its rare to do so. Oh and i would never buy that kit off of there either

 

[gsxstac]

yea those bov's are fake as well as the wastegates, the manifolds arent even made by obx, they are copies of that, and i hear the turbos are 270 degree bearing housing, they make shit and everyone hates on them.

FACT IS YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

 

[allgripnoslip]

I think it would make a pretty display

 

[allgripnoslip]

But seriously, what if you got the exhaust manifold cryo-treated like someone suggested, would that help much?
and got the welds beefed up?

 

[DSMJim]

But seriously, what if you got the exhaust manifold cryo-treated like someone suggested, would that help much?
and got the welds beefed up?

It has nothing to do with the welds, the welding is TIG and is pretty good. One thing they can do in Taiwan is weld really well. The problem is the tubing the manifold is made from is about 1/3 of the thickness that it needs to be. Adding weld to the manifold will not improve its strength or reiability. It's just too thin regardless of what you do.