drop 800lbs with squidskins?

[AWDspoOLiN]

I took the "another dumb shit comment" personally which brought the smart ass out of me but it's all good seeing as how I probably shouldn't have been so curt with my first post in this thread. I've messaged a few people parting out their cars on the trader to see if they might have any weight values off the top of their head but I think they're more concerned with $$$ than ???. On a side note, I find it a bit funny that this thread is the number one result on Google when I punch in "squidskins".

 

[98spydert]

I find it a bit funny that this thread is the number one result on Google when I punch in "squidskins".

Lol :laugh: that's pretty good...

 

[2bar4g63t]

yeh, my thread=teh sh!t

 

[igs]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72370

 

[AWDspoOLiN]

Looks great igs. Did you ever get around to getting the doors? I'm getting jealous thinking about all that carbon. I might have to do it. The problem is this has been the longest since the Squidskins site has been down. Does anyone know what's going on with them? You wouldn't happen to have an e-mail address or phone number for them would you, igs?

 

[TheDeer]

I would think if you are not into a complete show car, by the time you got to the point that you were ready to spend that much to make the car that much lighter (how every much it would turn out), you would have to auto-x the car. Because in the 1320, to justify $5000 (guessing from above estimates, and without install and rewire), you are talking about money that on a turbo car, can easily net greater gains elseware. Unless you have taken the motor as far as it can go, added N20, full engine management, axl's, diff's, trans, etc....

I would think that if you are at the point where you are trying to get to 8.99 from 9's. Then maybe, but I would think otherwise that is a lot of money to spend on weight reduction. Like I said at the start, if its an auto-x car, then loosing weight is much better than having a 500whp car, that doesn't move until 5500 rpm.

I would rather put that money somewhere else into the car, unless it was burning a whole in my pocket, or I was a show freek. (or just rich beatch) My .02

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

I would think if you are not into a complete show car, by the time you got to the point that you were ready to spend that much to make the car that much lighter (how every much it would turn out), you would have to auto-x the car. Because in the 1320, to justify $5000 (guessing from above estimates, and without install and rewire), you are talking about money that on a turbo car, can easily net greater gains elseware. Unless you have taken the motor as far as it can go, added N20, full engine management, axl's, diff's, trans, etc....

I would think that if you are at the point where you are trying to get to 8.99 from 9's. Then maybe, but I would think otherwise that is a lot of money to spend on weight reduction. Like I said at the start, if its an auto-x car, then loosing weight is much better than having a 500whp car, that doesn't move until 5500 rpm.

I would rather put that money somewhere else into the car, unless it was burning a whole in my pocket, or I was a show freek. (or just rich beatch) My .02

This is opbviously someone who has never driven a 500 hp 2000 lb car. Not to mention that losing weight keeps your transmission in one piece.

Of course, anyone who thinks that shit drops 800 lb's smokes teh pole. And anyoen who automatically takes a unknown vendors opinon over intelligent forums posters is also a tool.

 

[TheDeer]

This is opbviously someone who has never driven a 500 hp 2000 lb car. Not to mention that losing weight keeps your transmission in one piece.

So you think what I said is wrong, you think that having a 500awhp car that spools at 5500 rpm is great for autocross? And yes loosing weight does make your trans happier, read what I wrote again, and notice I said that if you have done everything else to the car, then yes spend 5000 (without labor or whatever) on carbon fiber parts.

BTW my car dyno'd at 410 awhp, on pump@21psi, the first time running in 9months. I hope to be over 500 awhp on race gas. Granted my car is a 1320 car, but when I get the trailer and make it full drag, I wish I could get it to 2000. Depends no how much money I want to spend. Also, I used to have a 1992 vw golf with a 400+hp VR turbo, it weighed just over 2100. (so I almost drove a 500hp and 2000 pound car, even though fwd sucks on the street) Not that it means I can contribute more than anyone else here, it means I have been wasting money long enough to relize the benefits of $5000 for a turbo car.

 

[kooka]

Of course, anyone who thinks that shit drops 800 lb's smokes teh pole. And anyoen who automatically takes a unknown vendors opinon over intelligent forums posters is also a tool.

The vendor swore up and down, left and right that it was done. I just wish I could find the thread.

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

So you think what I said is wrong, you think that having a 500awhp car that spools at 5500 rpm is great for autocross? And yes loosing weight does make your trans happier, read what I wrote again, and notice I said that if you have done everything else to the car, then yes spend 5000 (without labor or whatever) on carbon fiber parts.

BTW my car dyno'd at 410 awhp, on pump@21psi, the first time running in 9months. I hope to be over 500 awhp on race gas. Granted my car is a 1320 car, but when I get the trailer and make it full drag, I wish I could get it to 2000. Depends no how much money I want to spend. Also, I used to have a 1992 vw golf with a 400+hp VR turbo, it weighed just over 2100. (so I almost drove a 500hp and 2000 pound car, even though fwd sucks on the street) Not that it means I can contribute more than anyone else here, it means I have been wasting money long enough to relize the benefits of $5000 for a turbo car.

Sweet, your car may be as fast as mine, congrats. 800 theoretical lb's is about a full second faster in the 1/4. When your running mid 11's, 5k to drop into the mid 10's and significantly GAIN reliability is not looking so bad.

I never said a 500 whp late spooling car for auto x was good, polesmoker. I said weight matters for drag racing.

 

[14.5 drift]

So you think what I said is wrong, you think that having a 500awhp car that spools at 5500 rpm is great for autocross? And yes loosing weight does make your trans happier, read what I wrote again, and notice I said that if you have done everything else to the car, then yes spend 5000 (without labor or whatever) on carbon fiber parts.

BTW my car dyno'd at 410 awhp, on pump@21psi, the first time running in 9months. I hope to be over 500 awhp on race gas. Granted my car is a 1320 car, but when I get the trailer and make it full drag, I wish I could get it to 2000. Depends no how much money I want to spend. Also, I used to have a 1992 vw golf with a 400+hp VR turbo, it weighed just over 2100. (so I almost drove a 500hp and 2000 pound car, even though fwd sucks on the street) Not that it means I can contribute more than anyone else here, it means I have been wasting money long enough to relize the benefits of $5000 for a turbo car.

440 hp @ 15 lbs??????? Is that even possible?? Are you stroked??? Nitrous???

 

[TheDeer]

Sweet, your car may be as fast as mine, congrats. 800 theoretical lb's is about a full second faster in the 1/4. When your running mid 11's, 5k to drop into the mid 10's and significantly GAIN reliability is not looking so bad.

I never said a 500 whp late spooling car for auto x was good, polesmoker. I said weight matters for drag racing.

I never said weight loss is bad, and where do you get 800 pounds out of those cb parts (that was theoretical, not a prooven number). Chill man.

I just said that if you want to spend $5000 on carbon parts, I hope there is nowhere else on the car that money could be spend for more benefit (whether its speed or reliablity). I am glad you car is faster or as fast as mine, I don't think I ever said anything about that. Just that you thought I don't have any experience driving cars with power to weight ratio's.

Polesmoker, . You don't ish about me, so chill.

 

[TheDeer]

That was before I got the car, when it was dyno'd on c16, with some crazy timing. Thanks I had to update that anyway. The car is a built 6bolt, FPRed, haltec, sheet metal intake, DIS-2, 272's, etc...

 

[AWDspoOLiN]

I'm not into making the GSX a show car nor am I into running my car down the 1320. The only racing I do is on roadcourses. Saving weight saves me the trouble of having to move up a bunch of classes due to power modifications. Going carbon is on my list of things to do the moment the GSX turns into a secondary mode of transportation.

 

[igs]

Check out the October issue of Sport Compact Car. They show you how to lose 600 lbs.

 

[kooka]

440 hp @ 15 lbs??????? Is that even possible??

are you serious? go here.

 

[kooka]

I'm not into making the GSX a show car nor am I into running my car down the 1320. The only racing I do is on roadcourses. Saving weight saves me the trouble of having to move up a bunch of classes due to power modifications. Going carbon is on my list of things to do the moment the GSX turns into a secondary mode of transportation.

look into fiberglass.

 

[AWDspoOLiN]

look into fiberglass.

Squidskins does make their panels in fiberglass as well as carbon fiber. Are you trying to save me money? I already had enough bad fiberglass experiences on my old 2g with stress fractures and excessive pitting from road debris. Maybe it was of subpar quality (I don't remember) but I'm happy to be rid of that car and its ridiculous body kit that I had the courtesy to remove before I sold it.

 

[kpt4321]

While 800 pounds is a lot, I honestly could see it being true.

Think about the amount of shit that is being replaced here; the dash, for example. It's not like you just remove the dash covering, and replace it with carbon fiber. The whole dash comes out (gauges, HVAC, glove box, everything) and I bet you lots of money that you don't put all the stock crap back in when you install the CF dash. You probably drop 100 pounds just getting rid of a ton of support members and HVAC crap from the dash.

Power leather seats weight something like 40-50 pounds each so you're dropping close to 100 pounds just from the front seats alone.

1g front and rear bumpers weight 30-45 pounds each, I'm not exactly sure. That's another 50-70 pounds of weight loss with almost weightless CF pieces.

A CF hood is about 40 pounds lighter than a stock 1g hood.

A hatch with glass has got to weigh something over 100 pounds, I would expect. A CF hatch with lexan weighs like what, 10 pounds? Boom, another 100 pounds there.

See what I mean?

 

[kooka]

Are you trying to save me money?

ya. while cf is great for weight, i figure fiberglass isnt terribly off weightwise, but the price difference is way different.

if i was really going to do this, id just get figerglass parts and paint some resin on the back of them to assure the strength. *shrugs*

 

[1fast97gsx]

While 800 pounds is a lot, I honestly could see it being true.

Think about the amount of shit that is being replaced here; the dash, for example. It's not like you just remove the dash covering, and replace it with carbon fiber. The whole dash comes out (gauges, HVAC, glove box, everything) and I bet you lots of money that you don't put all the stock crap back in when you install the CF dash. You probably drop 100 pounds just getting rid of a ton of support members and HVAC crap from the dash.

Power leather seats weight something like 40-50 pounds each so you're dropping close to 100 pounds just from the front seats alone.

1g front and rear bumpers weight 30-45 pounds each, I'm not exactly sure. That's another 50-70 pounds of weight loss with almost weightless CF pieces.

A CF hood is about 40 pounds lighter than a stock 1g hood.

A hatch with glass has got to weigh something over 100 pounds, I would expect. A CF hatch with lexan weighs like what, 10 pounds? Boom, another 100 pounds there.

See what I mean?

yea .... kinda but 800 lbs is 25% the weight of the car. I still think 300 max.

 

[14.5 drift]

are you serious? go here.

You sir are truly a grade A dipshit. Sorry for not knowing as much as you, prick.

 

[AWDspoOLiN]

While 800 pounds is a lot, I honestly could see it being true.

Think about the amount of shit that is being replaced here; the dash, for example. It's not like you just remove the dash covering, and replace it with carbon fiber. The whole dash comes out (gauges, HVAC, glove box, everything) and I bet you lots of money that you don't put all the stock crap back in when you install the CF dash. You probably drop 100 pounds just getting rid of a ton of support members and HVAC crap from the dash.

Power leather seats weight something like 40-50 pounds each so you're dropping close to 100 pounds just from the front seats alone.

1g front and rear bumpers weight 30-45 pounds each, I'm not exactly sure. That's another 50-70 pounds of weight loss with almost weightless CF pieces.

A CF hood is about 40 pounds lighter than a stock 1g hood.

A hatch with glass has got to weigh something over 100 pounds, I would expect. A CF hatch with lexan weighs like what, 10 pounds? Boom, another 100 pounds there.

See what I mean?

Yes, it's possible seeing as how the list is not all inclusive. Also, 2bar4g63t quoted some guy that claimed to be a distributor and it turns out that Squidskins may not have any distributors according to a couple threads I ran across. Anyhow, we'll never know for sure unless kooka can find this mystery thread or if the vendor himself comes here to lay out all his secrets for us to steal. Can anyone provide an e-mail address or phone number for Squidskins?

 

[kooka]

ill look for the thread again. i remember it like i just read it yesturday.

 

[gsx91boy]

FWIW

1g front bumper = 28#
1g hood =/= 50#

-aaron