Do i have a 6 bolt or 7 bolt?

[93 Eagle Talon TSi]

Ive been searching around about how to tell if i have a 6 or a 7 bolt. I read that if you had a adjustable cas and if i have ECI MULTI on my intake its a 6 bolt, then i read that 1g talons in 93 have 7 bolts, i know that the 7 bolts have a plain intake and non adjustable cas. So do i have a 6bolt i have ECI MULTI on my intake and an adjustable cas. Please help thank you.

 

[miguelmcv]

I don't know why you can't find any information.

When ever you search, Just add DSM.

DSM 6 BOLT 7 BOLT DIFFERENCE.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&newwi..._pw.r_qf.&fp=29f1d2d1223cbee7&biw=785&bih=452

 

[finesse49ers]

Sounds to me that you have a 6 bolt

(Also a picture of your engine wouldn't hurt either).

 

[93 Eagle Talon TSi]

Ive seen most of those post, I was trying to get someone to set it straight. I have the 14b not the little turbo that the 7 bolts normally have, so thats why im confused, i dont want to have to pull my motor to count the holes for the flywheel. So i just going to say i have the 6 bolt then. When i got the car the guy didnt say i had a swap, and a guy at one of my performance shops said 93s had a 7 bolt. Also is there a difference in the rod bearing between the 6 bolt or 7 bolts?

 

[chadjoe]

You can also tell by the shape of the oil pan whether its a 6 bolt or 7 bolt. In 92.5 diamond star went from 6 bolt to 7 bolt engines, i believe in august but don't get me lying. There is also no difference in the rod bearing sizes, but there is a difference of 1mm in the wrist pin sizes.

 

[93 Eagle Talon TSi]

Sounds to me that you have a 6 bolt

(Also a picture of your engine wouldn't hurt either).

Its in my pictures on here. My phone wont let my post it to this thread.

You can also tell by the shape of the oil pan whether its a 6 bolt or 7 bolt. In 92.5 diamond star went from 6 bolt to 7 bolt engines, i believe in august but don't get me lying. There is also no difference in the rod bearing sizes, but there is a difference of 1mm in the wrist pin sizes.

Ok. My friend has the same car and motor as me and he put 7 bolt bearing in. Didnt know if the bearing are different.

 

[miguelmcv]

You can't tell if its a 6 or 7 bolt just by looking at the top of the engine.
You have to look the front oil pan.

I post the google search and the second page has all the info including Photos to show the difference.

However, I will post the page.

How to quickly tell a 6bolt and 7bolt engine apart

 

[snowborder714]

The only thing your pictures are showing is that you have a 1g head.

The easiest way to tell if you have a 6 or 7 bolt is to look at where the front case meets the oil pan. If this area is completely flat, you have a 6 bolt. If there's a dip in the flange under the crank pulley, then you have a 7 bolt.
How to quickly tell a 6bolt and 7bolt engine apart

 

[miguelmcv]

Edit,

The turbo size or type, has nothing to do with the engine, You can put a different turbo on any engine, You can have a 7 bolt engine with a 1g turbo (14b), or you can have a 6 bolt engine with a 2g turbo (T25).

 

[93 Eagle Talon TSi]

Ok. I will look at that on monday.

 

[SPYDERGSTTUNER]

This is by far the easiest way to tell, the vin on the block is right under the head right besides your thermostat housing above the bell housing on the passenger side. Is in the little flat spot you can't miss it once you get to looking there. You might have to clean that area up a bit depending on how dirty your bay is to be able to read it well.
Then use this to find out exactly what you're looking for:
Decoding VINs

 

[19Eclipse90]

This is by far the easiest way to tell, the vin on the block is right under the head right besides your thermostat housing above the bell housing on the passenger side. Is in the little flat spot you can't miss it once you get to looking there. You might have to clean that area up a bit depending on how dirty your bay is to be able to read it well.
Then use this to find out exactly what you're looking for:
Decoding VINs

Decoding the VIN doesn't automatically tell you an engine is a 6-bolt or 7-bolt if it indicates a 1992 model. You would need to do something with that VIN, enter it in CAPS/ASA, call a dealership, find a source online that you can use, to check something like the number of flywheel bolts that would tell you what engine it is.

As stated multiple times above:

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[bryanwheat]

Decoding the VIN doesn't automatically tell you an engine is a 6-bolt or 7-bolt if it indicates a 1992 model. You would need to do something with that VIN, enter it in CAPS/ASA, call a dealership, find a source online that you can use, to check something like the number of flywheel bolts that would tell you what engine it is.

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Yes, it takes less than one minute to look at the oil pan and figure out what you have. There it not a more simple way to tell.

 

[SPYDERGSTTUNER]

Decoding the VIN doesn't automatically tell you an engine is a 6-bolt or 7-bolt if it indicates a 1992 model

Very true i stand corrected, 92 was the split year production for dsm's 6 bolt to 7 transition.

 

[GRNDSM]

I have the 14b not the little turbo that the 7 bolts normally have, so thats why im confused

1G 7 bolts engines also came with with 14b turbos.

But this entire topic is blown out of proportion! 92 is a split year, but... the switch happed in the VERY end of production when they ran out 6 bolts engines (last few weeks), so it effected very few cars. If I had to guess, I would say that about 1% of 92 cars had 7 bolts engines... If you got it, you won a sucky lottery

 

[93 Eagle Talon TSi]

I have the 7 bolt engine. So if i just get a 6bolt block and internals i can use the head, intake, and manifold?

 

[GRNDSM]

You will have to open up your head stud/bolts holes, but that is easy. You can even do it with a hand held drill.

 

[93 Eagle Talon TSi]

You will have to open up your head stud/bolts holes, but that is easy. You can even do it with a hand held drill.

OK thanks. Theres a guy near me with a 6 bolt long block with a 16g for $600. Might go snag it.

 

[miguelmcv]

OK thanks. Theres a guy near me with a 6 bolt long block with a 16g for $600. Might go snag it.

That's a good deal you have there bro.

Make sure the engine is in good conditions.

 

[GRNDSM]

I might have missed it, what is wrong with your current engine?