Do all dsm's feel as though the shifter clicks before fully in gear?

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just out of curiousity, because i drove my friends 1g n/t talon and it didnt click at all...and it seems like it slowing my shifts down badly??any input?

 

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i think abec bearing are more expensive than the kit. and those parts arent supposed to spin or glide. they hold the shifter in place thus giving a tighter feel less movement = more percise shift.

Well then i guess what your saying is the whole wheel bearing mods is kinda point less because all bearings move smoothley thats the point of it being a bearing...i mean if theres not supposed to be any moving parts in the bushing then why do the mod at all..

 

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Anyone else have any input on the situation?

 

[93EclipseGSX]

no what i was saying is the shifter kit is steel parts replacing rubber parts, the purpose of it is to hold the shifter still during engine movement, transmission movement, and during hard or fast shifting, making it so the shift mechimism doesnt move. making the cables move more precise. putting a bearing there is pointless cause its just there to hold the shift mechimism in place, not use the inside of the bearing to rotate.

 

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Gotcha

 

[whiteflash]

when mine's cold ill get a little notchy feeling shifting from 1st to 2nd.

 

[RGdsmNewb]

This is really strange because i've had this exact same problem too. It doesn't feel like the gears are gridning, but basically exactly like the picture you drew above. There is some resistance like right before you're going to be in gear, but you can pull through it, it just takes like an extra .5 seconds but no grinding occurs. Anyways i took my car to my mechanic and he told me it was my shifter bolts ( i don't know what those are) but apparently he tightened them and my car shifted pretty dece for about 50Kms , then started doing the same thing.

Weirdly enough, now that it is winter, my car shifts perfectly and i have no clue why the cold weather would fix the problem WTF

 

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Did you happen to notice were the bolts were that he tightend?? In side the car, outside the car?
thanks - Rob

 

[TooFast]

no what i was saying is the shifter kit is steel parts replacing rubber parts, the purpose of it is to hold the shifter still during engine movement, transmission movement, and during hard or fast shifting, making it so the shift mechanism doesn't move. making the cables move more precise. putting a bearing there is pointless cause its just there to hold the shift mechanism in place, not use the inside of the bearing to rotate.

I think there has been some confusion here because the steel parts that replace rubber parts are meant to hold the shifter firm to the floor. The bearings are meant to go on the cables so that they glide better and provide better, faster, smoother shifts. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Metal bushings = Good. ABEC bearings = Good.

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

This is really strange because i've had this exact same problem too. It doesn't feel like the gears are gridning, but basically exactly like the picture you drew above. There is some resistance like right before you're going to be in gear, but you can pull through it, it just takes like an extra .5 seconds but no grinding occurs. Anyways i took my car to my mechanic and he told me it was my shifter bolts ( i don't know what those are) but apparently he tightened them and my car shifted pretty dece for about 50Kms , then started doing the same thing.

Weirdly enough, now that it is winter, my car shifts perfectly and i have no clue why the cold weather would fix the problem WTF

The resistance you feel is your synchros. Synchros are the things in the transmission that lets you go into a gear without griding it. When you feel that resistance, it's the synchro trying to let you go into gear without grinding. If you shift too fast before the synchro lets you get into gear properly, it will grind.

 

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I think there has been some confusion here because the steel parts that replace rubber parts are meant to hold the shifter firm to the floor. The bearings are meant to go on the cables so that they glide better and provide better, faster, smoother shifts. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Metal bushings = Good. ABEC bearings = Good.

Thank you too fast...im glad some1 agrees with me...i mean i think i knoe my physics..good call!

 

[RGdsmNewb]

The resistance you feel is your synchros. Synchros are the things in the transmission that lets you go into a gear without griding it. When you feel that resistance, it's the synchro trying to let you go into gear without grinding. If you shift too fast before the synchro lets you get into gear properly, it will grind.

i don't understand why it would shift perfectly when it's cold outside tho??? like im talking below -10

 

[jw_55_55]

I have the same problem with 91 gst...it never grinded into gear but when u would shift it almost felt like i had to go to a certain point then even further to get it into gear.(never grinded though) i played with the shift cables and then added BG synroshift stuff and its almost 100% better!!

 

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Do you remeber exactly what it was you did to the cables??Just wondering so i can give it a try...

 

[jw_55_55]

Yea check outwww.vfaq.com ....click drive train and look at the shifter adjustment page it is pretty detailed on how to do it. Good Luck

 

[andymoraitis]

Do you remeber exactly what it was you did to the cables??Just wondering so i can give it a try...

2G's don't have the same adjustment at the shifter that the 1G's do, but if you want more positive feedback from the shifter you can remove the rubber bushings on the bracket that attaches to the top of the transmission and use some flat washers to hold the bolts in. The lack of rubber eliminates the sloppiness (picked this one up from Kyle Mavis - mavisky) and it's made my shifting much more positive.

For the OP, yup even mine feels like it goes through a gate in each gear but I can shift it as fast or as slowly as I want with no grind.

 

[DSM_dreams]

good post guys very helpful to alot of newbs

 

[slo98talon]

ive noticed on the tranny in my friends 2nd gen talon, third doesnt seem to "click" i guess you could say, sometimes i miss the gear ( yeah i know shut up), i wasnt sure if it was her transmission or all of the dsm trannys, cause she does drive it pretty hard...

 

[Deadly BlaZe]

i don't understand why it would shift perfectly when it's cold outside tho??? like im talking below -10

It could be anything really, god knows what's going on in that 11 year old transmission of yours. It could be because of the type of gear oil you have in there.