Differences between FPGreen and PTE T4

[stock1g4g63]

I was just wondering what advantages/differences the FPGreen has over the PTE T4? With a 500 some-odd dollar price difference, there's gotta be something worth that 500 bucks.

 

[heavyD]

The FPgreen comes with their exclusive Monster thrust bearing.

 

[guitarXgeek]

I guess some of it comes from the Forced Performance name, and the insurance that goes along with it. If it was made by FP, then you KNOW it's an excellent product that has been proven to be a sweet ass turbo , not to mention FP's warranty.

 

[Sk8er07999]

whats wrong with pte? I am stuck between the three ( AGP, FP, PTE) pte is hard to pass up with those prices.

 

[stock1g4g63]

That's exactly what I'm thinking....

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What is it that is "better" (if indeed it is) about the FPGreen... I've heard loads of praise for the Green, and everyone seems to say "the turbo is a monster", but no one can really give me a straight answer. I'm willing to spend that extra money if I thought it was really worth it.... But they both seem pretty equal to me. Any help would be appreciated guys. Thanks.

 

[SexyDSM95]

A lot of the difference would be the turbine wheel used and most the housing or bearing. I know with some of the brands some like to use ball bearing or dual ball bearing which is better technology IMO. It's a lot of research I am in the process of the same thing and I am definately leaning towards FP Green right now.

 

[SexyDSM95]

That's exactly what I'm thinking....

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What is it that is "better" (if indeed it is) about the FPGreen... I've heard loads of praise for the Green, and everyone seems to say "the turbo is a monster", but no one can really give me a straight answer. I'm willing to spend that extra money if I thought it was really worth it.... But they both seem pretty equal to me. Any help would be appreciated guys. Thanks.

I can give you a good answer....spool time and technology on top of an awesome warranty.

 

[v2ner]

well, this is another turbo vs. turbo thing. i'm not taking sides but the GREEN is proven to perform.

 

[Sk8er07999]

well, this is another turbo vs. turbo thing. i'm not taking sides but the GREEN is proven to perform.

AGP is proven and I have personally witnessed PTE get the job done. I am not dogging FP but they are just so exspensive and all you get is a big fat turbo. Which don't get me wrong well all want one. but for like the same price for the gate, turbo, oil lines, and o2 housing from FP you could buy the complete kit from AGP with one bad ass manifold from SFP. Then again with PTE you could have a direct bolt on with the lines for like 1000. Or even the AGP RS series turbos are around the same price and are also direct bolt ons.

 

[SexyDSM95]

AGP is proven and I have personally witnessed PTE get the job done. I am not dogging FP but they are just so exspensive and all you get is a big fat turbo. Which don't get me wrong well all want one. but for like the same price for the gate, turbo, oil lines, and o2 housing from FP you could buy the complete kit from AGP with one bad ass manifold from SFP. Then again with PTE you could have a direct bolt on with the lines for like 1000. Or even the AGP RS series turbos are around the same price and are also direct bolt ons.

Ummm yea...the FP Green bolts up just like the 20G would....so your last statement does not hold much ground. As for upgradable parts some kits may give you the mani, oil lines and what not, but like I said if the FP Green bolts up just like the 20G porting the mani and 02 would be sufficient. I like that idea for those of us who like to look "stock" or "sleeper"

 

[Sk8er07999]

Ummm yea...the FP Green bolts up just like the 20G would....so your last statement does not hold much ground. As for upgradable parts some kits may give you the mani, oil lines and what not, but like I said if the FP Green bolts up just like the 20G porting the mani and 02 would be sufficient. I like that idea for those of us who like to look "stock" or "sleeper"

So whats the deal? Why do you think it's worth it to pay all that money for a bare turbo? Yeah they are proven, yeah the have a warranty thats awesome. Sh!t FP is awesome but is it the only way to go? I don't think so. I guess I want to get more for my money. Not just a huge turbo that hangs off the ugly stock manifold.

 

[9d2TSi]

Ummm yea...the FP Green bolts up just like the 20G would....so your last statement does not hold much ground. As for upgradable parts some kits may give you the mani, oil lines and what not, but like I said if the FP Green bolts up just like the 20G porting the mani and 02 would be sufficient. I like that idea for those of us who like to look "stock" or "sleeper"

I'm failing to see where the green looks "sleeper" in any way...

http://linux.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/graphics/00000001/full/green_full.jpg

 

[unior]

but like I said if the FP Green bolts up just like the 20G porting the mani and 02 would be sufficient. I like that idea for those of us who like to look "stock" or "sleeper"

depends on what 20G your buying now

 

[stock1g4g63]

Well, we're getting a little bit off track here guys. So far, I've gathered that the FPGreen turbo spools faster than the PTE T4, is there anything else? I'm not making this a turbo vs turbo thread, in that I have no doubt the Green is better than the PTE, but I do want to know what makes it better (besides spool up time) Speaking of which, anyone know what RPM the PTE T4 reaches full boost at compared to the FPGreen? And let me put it in simpler terms, (althought this might sound stupid) if two cars had the exact same setup, except on had the Green and one the PTE, what other differences would there be besides spoolup time? does the green flow better/more efficiently?

 

[heavyD]

I'm failing to see where the green looks "sleeper" in any way...

http://linux.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/graphics/00000001/full/green_full.jpg

I thought the same thing. An FPgreen will stick out just like an AGP 50 trim. FP is a great company to deal with and their products are great. My FP28 leaks oil and it only has about 3000 miles on it so I wouldn't say that their stuff is any more bulletproof than anyone elses.

 

[9d2TSi]

Well, we're getting a little bit off track here guys. So far, I've gathered that the FPGreen turbo spools faster than the PTE T4, is there anything else? I'm not making this a turbo vs turbo thread, in that I have no doubt the Green is better than the PTE, but I do want to know what makes it better (besides spool up time) Speaking of which, anyone know what RPM the PTE T4 reaches full boost at compared to the FPGreen? And let me put it in simpler terms, (althought this might sound stupid) if two cars had the exact same setup, except on had the Green and one the PTE, what other differences would there be besides spoolup time? does the green flow better/more efficiently?

I agree with ya on that. there's a thread about flow rates and I can't find it. I've been doing the search thing (a forgotten art) and can't find it. Oh well, I'll keep looking.

 

[v2ner]

i would love to c a compressor map of these turbos....then we'd know about their efficiency ranges and determine our goals and go our seperate ways. BTW, y not go w/ a SC-61....that's a badass turbo too. it's on my friend/mechanic's street car and he got a timeslip which read 10.80.

 

[44pirate]

The PTE 50trim on my stock 7bolt would see 21psi around 3600-3800 rpm in third. FWIW. My opinion the turbo is great. NO problems. With the 2.3l I'm seeing 21psi at around 2800-3000 rpm.

 

[turbolarry]

Yoshi,
IMO, there will be little performance difference between the two. Both are big, laggy, and make full boost at 3800-4000 rpms. Both will meet your horsepower goals so it's this;
FPGreen=$1299+shipping
PTE=$895+tax (RRE)

I vote for the PTE, buy injectors too, and we (safely) tune tune the sh!t out of it.

 

[stock1g4g63]

Yoshi,
IMO, there will be little performance difference between the two. Both are big, laggy, and make full boost at 3800-4000 rpms. Both will meet your horsepower goals so it's this;
FPGreen=$1299+shipping
PTE=$895+tax (RRE)

I vote for the PTE, buy injectors too, and we (safely) tune tune the sh!t out of it.

Thanks again Larry, you the man... that's what I figured. I just thought maybe there was something abou the FPGreen Turbo that made it way better.. if it flowed a considerable amount more than the PTE or boost came 500+ RPM more.. I would have been willing to pay the extra $500.

 

[midnght]

Can some post the specs up to the PTE turbo at hand here.


As for the Green, it is proven over and over. The makeup to the turbo itself is for outstanding PUMP power. It is a hybrid 50trim/TDO6H turbo. Does very well on the stock components and is pretty impressive for the price. PTE has great turbos, as does FP. I don't think you can go wrong with either one.


Lag is WAAAAY over-rated. The difference of 500rpm is nill unless you are a track whore. Anything bigger than the T-28/16G family is considered laggy . If anything the "lag" will help you gain some of the traction you have lost with the FWD setup.

 

[EvolvingGST]

Can some post the specs up to the PTE turbo at hand here.


As for the Green, it is proven over and over. The makeup to the turbo itself is for outstanding PUMP power. It is a hybrid 50trim/TDO6H turbo. Does very well on the stock components and is pretty impressive for the price. PTE has great turbos, as does FP. I don't think you can go wrong with either one.


Lag is WAAAAY over-rated. The difference of 500rpm is nill unless you are a track whore. Anything bigger than the T-28/16G family is considered laggy . If anything the "lag" will help you gain some of the traction you have lost with the FWD setup.

LIES ALL LIES... hahaha how many of you have done a burn out in 4th.... YEAH.... The T3/T4 50 trim doesn't lag enough to give you traction. Lies all lies.. But you know something? All that power makes you feel good... If you have a GST... get a EBC... if you think you can coast with a 50 trim and a MBC you have something coming at you.

 

[stock1g4g63]

The difference of 500rpm is nill unless you are a track whore. Anything bigger than the T-28/16G family is considered laggy . If anything the "lag" will help you gain some of the traction you have lost with the FWD setup.

Good point, I was just saying how $500 would be worth it if it was better spooling and/or flowed considerably better...

Good point on the traction thing though, I brought that up with Larry but I guess I just forgot about it