WpgDSMer
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- May 30, 2008
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Winnipeg,
My ABS light started to come on a while ago, intermittently. It is now on all the time, and my ABS is not working. I tried to read the trouble codes, but could not get any. I had the dealer look at it twice, and they could not read any codes. I tried one more time, but still could not read any. I've owned the car for a long time (10 yrs) and the last time this happened (when I first got it) it turned out to be the ABS ECU (it was a warranty thing, so I didn't look to closely into it).
An ABS ECU from the dealer is very expensive, so I want to make sure that's it. I've gone through the Voltage check, and the harness resistance check, and I'm getting some strange values. Could anyone look at this and see what they think the issue might be? It looks like a few things, which makes me think it might be the ECU, but the bad harness values worry me (since the ABS ECU isn't attached when you check those).
Voltage Check (with ignition on)
terminal 2 - 12.33v (should be battery voltage) OK - Relay Power Supply (output)
terminal 6 - 2.48v (should be 2.3-2.7v on level ground) OK - G sensor (input)
terminal 17 - 0.01v (should be battery voltage)
- FL(RR) solenoid valve (output)
terminal 18 - 12.35v (should be battery voltage) OK - Ignition switch (input)
terminal 22 - 0v (should be battery voltage)
- Valve relay monitor (input)
terminal 23 - 11.33v (should be 1v or less) -
Diagnostic communication (input/output)
terminal 24 - 11.13v (should be approx 12) OKish - Diagnostic selection (input)
terminal 25 - 0.80v (should be battery voltage)
- ABS warning light (Output)
terminal 29 (ignition off, stoplight switch off) - 0v (should be 1.5v or more)
- Stop light switch (input)
terminal 35 - 0v (should be battery voltage)
FR(RL) solenoid valve (output)
Wire Harness resistances
terminal 5 - ground : 19k ohm (should be 0)
Motor Monitor
terminal 9 - ground: 0 ohm (should be 0) OK - ABS-ECU ground
terminal 10-11 : 1.138k ohm (should be 1.0 to 1.2k ohm) OK - RL sensor
terminal 20 - ground: not continuous (should be 0)
G sensor ground
terminal 26-2: 80 ohm (should be approx 50)
Motor relay
terminal 27-2: 105 ohm (should be approx 100) OK - Valve relay
terminal 30-28: 1.107k ohm (should be 1.0 to 1.2k ohm) OK - RR Sensor
terminal 32-15: 1.137k ohm (should be 1.0 to 1.2k ohm) OK - FL sensor
terminal 33-31: 1.101k ohm (should be 1.0 to 1.2k ohm) OK - FR sensor
terminal 34-ground: 0 ohm (should be 0) OK - ABS ECU ground
So there are lots of items that don't seem to match the normal values.
It looks like there is an issue with the valve (or relay at least), possibly the motor, the diagnostic voltages are out, and something with the G sensor ground (even thou the voltage, terminal 6, reads OK). I have DSMLink V2 running on the car, so I'm not sure if that would mess with the diagnostics port for ABS (I don't think so, but not sure).
None of the wire connections look burnt, and all seem to have a good crimp. I've taken out the ABS ECU and opened the case. None of the components look bad (not burnt or loose) and there are no traces that look bad. I have some pics of the inside of the ECU if anyone wants to see them.
Anyone have an idea?
An ABS ECU from the dealer is very expensive, so I want to make sure that's it. I've gone through the Voltage check, and the harness resistance check, and I'm getting some strange values. Could anyone look at this and see what they think the issue might be? It looks like a few things, which makes me think it might be the ECU, but the bad harness values worry me (since the ABS ECU isn't attached when you check those).
Voltage Check (with ignition on)
terminal 2 - 12.33v (should be battery voltage) OK - Relay Power Supply (output)
terminal 6 - 2.48v (should be 2.3-2.7v on level ground) OK - G sensor (input)
terminal 17 - 0.01v (should be battery voltage)
terminal 18 - 12.35v (should be battery voltage) OK - Ignition switch (input)
terminal 22 - 0v (should be battery voltage)
terminal 23 - 11.33v (should be 1v or less) -
terminal 24 - 11.13v (should be approx 12) OKish - Diagnostic selection (input)
terminal 25 - 0.80v (should be battery voltage)
terminal 29 (ignition off, stoplight switch off) - 0v (should be 1.5v or more)
terminal 35 - 0v (should be battery voltage)
Wire Harness resistances
terminal 5 - ground : 19k ohm (should be 0)
terminal 9 - ground: 0 ohm (should be 0) OK - ABS-ECU ground
terminal 10-11 : 1.138k ohm (should be 1.0 to 1.2k ohm) OK - RL sensor
terminal 20 - ground: not continuous (should be 0)
terminal 26-2: 80 ohm (should be approx 50)
Motor relayterminal 27-2: 105 ohm (should be approx 100) OK - Valve relay
terminal 30-28: 1.107k ohm (should be 1.0 to 1.2k ohm) OK - RR Sensor
terminal 32-15: 1.137k ohm (should be 1.0 to 1.2k ohm) OK - FL sensor
terminal 33-31: 1.101k ohm (should be 1.0 to 1.2k ohm) OK - FR sensor
terminal 34-ground: 0 ohm (should be 0) OK - ABS ECU ground
So there are lots of items that don't seem to match the normal values.
It looks like there is an issue with the valve (or relay at least), possibly the motor, the diagnostic voltages are out, and something with the G sensor ground (even thou the voltage, terminal 6, reads OK). I have DSMLink V2 running on the car, so I'm not sure if that would mess with the diagnostics port for ABS (I don't think so, but not sure).
None of the wire connections look burnt, and all seem to have a good crimp. I've taken out the ABS ECU and opened the case. None of the components look bad (not burnt or loose) and there are no traces that look bad. I have some pics of the inside of the ECU if anyone wants to see them.
Anyone have an idea?
