Crankwalk?? Oh no.

[chunney]

Alright, so I've only had my car about 2 months now. It was down for a few weeks because the clutch hydraulic system was screwed up. Replaced the master, slave, and did the SS clutch line and it was all great up until tonight. I started my car to warm up before leaving work and noticed a nice wet oil spot behind my car. No problem, the 14b is wearing out and burning oil, or so I thought. I added the half quart I had in my hatch, and then went to walmart and got another quart. It was 1.5 quarts low, its sitting just above the "full" mark on the dipstick now. Well I left walmart, drove about a block and it died. I started it back up and pulled into a parking lot. It died again and didn't even want to crank over. It sounded like the battery was dead but I know the battery wasnt the issue. Finally I got it to start and idle. With the clutch to the floor I sat there thinking. All of a sudden I heard a clicking that went away when i let the clutch out. It only did this for a few minutes and hasnt done it since but now the car will not go into gear at all, the clutch isnt completely disengaging again. I KNOW its not the clutch hydro system. Could this be crankwalk? Does crankwalk just happen all of a sudden? I'm at a loss of what to do besides order a JDM 4G63 and call it a day.

 

[nightmares GS-T]

Alright, so I've only had my car about 2 months now. It was down for a few weeks because the clutch hydraulic system was screwed up. Replaced the master, slave, and did the SS clutch line and it was all great up until tonight. I started my car to warm up before leaving work and noticed a nice wet oil spot behind my car. No problem, the 14b is wearing out and burning oil, or so I thought. I added the half quart I had in my hatch, and then went to walmart and got another quart. It was 1.5 quarts low, its sitting just above the "full" mark on the dipstick now. Well I left walmart, drove about a block and it died. I started it back up and pulled into a parking lot. It died again and didn't even want to crank over. It sounded like the battery was dead but I know the battery wasnt the issue. Finally I got it to start and idle. With the clutch to the floor I sat there thinking. All of a sudden I heard a clicking that went away when i let the clutch out. It only did this for a few minutes and hasnt done it since but now the car will not go into gear at all, the clutch isnt completely disengaging again. I KNOW its not the clutch hydro system. Could this be crankwalk? Does crankwalk just happen all of a sudden? I'm at a loss of what to do besides order a JDM 4G63 and call it a day.

JDM huh? What is this a honda? In order to accurately check for crankwalk you need to check for crankshaft end play. In the even that its out of spec you either go with a newer 7 bolt (97-99) or a 6 bolt.

 

[2slow4now]

Check crank endplay and read up on crankwalk. The main thing is since you replaced everything in the clutch system it will probably need to be adjusted. I know there is a good video on doing it somewhere on here. Somebody help him out with the video link.
A good bet when your doing work is when you run into problems look at the last thing you did before you had problems.

 

[ktgurl87]

You could actually check to see if there's any play in the crank. And can someone honestly tell me the difference in a "JDM 4G63" and just a regular old 4G63?

 

[chunney]

JDM isnt just a honda thing. Any engine imported from japan is considered a JDM engine. Whether or not its different from a USDM engine, I don't know, but if I were to get a new motor it would be a low mileage swap from an importer.

If someone could post that link I'd appreciate it...

I was also told my car had a 6bolt swap but im not sure if it does or not.

 

[2slow4now]

The 6bolts weren't known for CW. Low mileage importer? Have you been looking on ebay? I'm just trying to help you out and keep you from getting slammed.
I'm at work but if I find the video on clutch adjustment I'll post it but just for your own benefit you should read up on anything you can on here.

 

[Blue Talon Boy]

I have posted the video link for a few people. If you look back in my posts, you can find it. I don't have the link right now. Also it can be found on YouTube by searching for "dsm clutch adjustment"

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[F8LGSX]

I never heard of a 6 bolt crank walking. Crankshaft end play and micro metals in your oil filter are signs for crank walk.

 

[crash89]

When I had a spring pop out of my pressure plate I would hear a "clicking" with the clutch on the floor and wouldnt go into gear. Does your pedal feel somewhat normal?

 

[Dert]

How do you "KNOW" it's not your clutch? Just because you replaced a bunch of clutch components doesn't eliminate the clutch, you can have a brand spanking new clutch fail in 500 miles or less. The clicking sound could be something hitting the teeth on your pressure plate. Crankwalk is actually not as common as people play it out to be, and the fact of the matter is ANY motor can get crankwalk. In dsm's it was mainly a handful of 95/96's that got it and Mitsubishi switched to a split thrust bearing in 97 or 98 . If your motor has 60,000 or more miles on it and it hasnt walked yet, it probably won't, check over your clutch system again as I would put my money on it being that than crankwalk.


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[nightmares GS-T]

And jdm motors are a completely different design that will not walk right? Like everyone else is saying I HIGHLY doubt its crankwalk. That subject is entirely to played out and thrown around way too much. Even if that were the case a us spec 6 bolt is just as strong as jdm. Cheaper as well because u could skip paying the fees to import it. Go to jacks transmissions website. They have a video that tells you how to adjust the clutch. Just because it's all brand new doesn't mean its bullet proof. New things fail from time to time. The problem began after the clutch system was updated. That should be the first indicator that something isn't right with the clutch or hydraulic system. Could be faulty parts or could need adjustment.

 

[ExpresS]

What is the "oil spot"? Is it a drip of some sort? Check the slave cylinder and all the easy components first. Crankwalk is almost a myth. Don't believe the hype.

 

[JusMX141]

The 6bolts weren't known for CW.

I never heard of a 6 bolt crank walking.

I may be missing something, but where did the O.P. say his car had a 6-bolt?


Regardless, I doubt it's crankwalk. New member with two tech posts....anytime the engine fails, it's crankwalk.

 

[Tfitch90]

I may be missing something, but where did the O.P. say his car had a 6-bolt?


Regardless, I doubt it's crankwalk. New member with two tech posts....anytime the engine fails, it's crankwalk.

His second post he stated that he was told it has a 6 bolt swap.

 

[DSMBlake]

remove the valve cover look at the head bolts if its an allen bolt u have a 6-bolt.(crank walk exempt)oil starve possable.. if theres 12point 12mm you have a 7bolt .. the clutch springs coild easly be the issue.. but knowing what engine you have helps rfule out possabillitys

What is the "oil spot"? Is it a drip of some sort? Check the slave cylinder and all the easy components first. Crankwalk is almost a myth. Don't believe the hype.

95-96 are common to walk around 80k-140k. mor than 97-99s ive had 2 96 cars gst and gsx gsx @118k, gst @126k

 

[Boostinsideways]

Those JDM engines are really not worth the price tag. For the price they ask for a "JDM" engine you could have a fully forged piston/rod combo, crank turned, and all the machine work done, still money in your pocket.

Last time I checked on a cyclone it was like 1200 for an engine with ecu. and 1650 for a full engine with trans, ecu, harness, t-case.

 

[DSMBlake]

[/B][/B] and all the machine work done, still money in your pocket.

Last time I checked on a cyclone it was like 1200 for an engine with ecu. and 1650 for a full engine with trans, ecu, harness, t-case.

i dissagree with you 100% i have a cyclone (]jdm) engineit was 1300$ i got a engine with a REAL big 16g not some ebay wana be turbo, 510 injectors and an eprom ecu.. the only part of the harness that was cut was the alt. wire goin to the fuse box.. also got the transmissiln with transfer case.. plus the engine is around 40-80k on it.. i orderd my engine from ebay and love it. i had 3100 in my forged bottom end, and still had to go thru the head.

 

[delta448]

I KNOW its not the clutch hydro system. Could this be crankwalk? Does crankwalk just happen all of a sudden?

Care to make a friendly wager?

Crankwalk my ass. Your recent clutch work is to blame. At worst, you have a busted clutch disk or a pressure plate with broken fingers.

 

[lb_gst99]

You would have heard a "Cow Bell" type of noise once you sqeezed the clutch in. Then again a 6-Bolt. Not even the Late 7-bolts (Split Thrust Bearing) blocks crank walk. You may have a different problem.

 

[TylerLorenz]

I never heard of a 6 bolt crank walking.

I've personally seen 2-3 6 Bolts Crankwalk. Due to bad clutch adjustment.

 

[Anubis_4_99]

Alright, so I've only had my car about 2 months now. It was down for a few weeks because the clutch hydraulic system was screwed up. Replaced the master, slave, and did the SS clutch line and it was all great up until tonight. I started my car to warm up before leaving work and noticed a nice wet oil spot behind my car. No problem, the 14b is wearing out and burning oil, or so I thought. I added the half quart I had in my hatch, and then went to walmart and got another quart. It was 1.5 quarts low, its sitting just above the "full" mark on the dipstick now. Well I left walmart, drove about a block and it died. I started it back up and pulled into a parking lot. It died again and didn't even want to crank over. It sounded like the battery was dead but I know the battery wasnt the issue. Finally I got it to start and idle. With the clutch to the floor I sat there thinking. All of a sudden I heard a clicking that went away when i let the clutch out. It only did this for a few minutes and hasnt done it since but now the car will not go into gear at all, the clutch isnt completely disengaging again. I KNOW its not the clutch hydro system. Could this be crankwalk? Does crankwalk just happen all of a sudden? I'm at a loss of what to do besides order a JDM 4G63 and call it a day.

this would make me believe your throw out bearing could be a culprit, I'm surprised no one has thrown that out there yet.

pressure plate could also have failed.

 

[chunney]

Somehow I'm missing a few bolts that connect the engine to the trans. Anyone know what size they are, specifically the one nearest to the slave cylinder?

 

[H4G64T]

So much bad information in this thread...surprise, surprise with all the wannabe experts.

1. 6 Bolts Crankwalk

4g63t 6 bolt crank walk - YouTube

2. There is no mileage that crankwalk stops striking at. 10K or 250K it can happen.

3. 99.8% of crankwalk claims on this site, aren't crankwalk, that number may not be scientific, but it's pretty accurate anyway.

4. 97s use the same thrust bearing design as the 95s and 96s. The revise split thrust bearing is in 98+ model years. Even Evos have walked and there was a huge ordeal here a few years back who bought a "JDM" 6 bolt that came to him with walk.

5. There is no such thing as JDM, the engine design is identical. Yes you may have a different intake manifold, turbo, valve cover on it, but none of those thing have anything to do with the actual engine. If that is why you are buying JDM engines, well then you are poor. Stop putting used stuff on your car and it won't break.