Converting/Modernizing front suspension

[92awddsm]

Kingpin inclination angle.

You have to remember, you aren't dealing with a group of suspension experts. Some may still be trying to figure out what a kingpin is.

Translation:
King Pin Inclination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[pagosa dsm]

In the last 40 years king pin inclination has been called steering axis inclination. What Eclipsh's question is that the evo and the 1st gen has McPherson stut suspenion, what is different between the two?

 

[Defiant]

You have to remember, you aren't dealing with a group of suspension experts. Some may still be trying to figure out what a kingpin is.

I'm always hoping they might realize they're on the internaweb, and all answers are only a Google away.

Ah, but we live in hope, and die in despair.

 

[underradar92]

Does anyone know the inclination angles of 1g's and EVOVIII's? If they are comparable, then we can move on to other fun questions.

 

[Smitherines]

I also have interest in the 1g setups. Can they actually be converted to the 2g/evo style dual-wishbone setups?

 

[Dallas J]

The evo doesnt have double wishbone.

 

[eclipsh]

So digging some of this back up, Pagosa DSM went and got the alignment specs for a 1g DSM vs an Evo 8. Here they are:

Camber
1g: +0.17 F -1.55 R
E8: -1 to -2 F -1.0 R

Caster
1g: 2.30 F
E8: 3.92 F

Toe
1g: 0.00 F 0.28R
E8: 0.00 F 0.24 R


So... as many of you may have known, the Evo has more caster and camber in the front than a 1g. Also, the E8 lists the SAI at 13.75, nothing is listed for the 1g. If anyone has this it'd be nice to have.

What all this means is up to you guys. Obviously more negative camber and caster is going to help a 1g handle better but is there more to be done up front?

 

[Dallas J]

Better tires, suspension, stiffer sway bars, stiffer chassis, LSD/ACD (on applicable models).

All these add up to a big difference.

 

[3literpwr]

So you want to take a shock car and make it a strut car? I cant see what the benefit this would be UNLESS this was a rally car and big travel was needed... For a street car it seems like LOTS of work for little reward... If you need camber adjustment just build or by adjustable upper control arms... If you wanna do this just to do it then fine...

LP

 

[underradar92]

This may help: The span between the upper strut centers on a 1g is 42". Between the lower ball joints is 56". The height is 24".

A lot of things on my car are non-stock or adjustable so your results may (will) vary, but my inclination angle looks to be 16.26 degrees.