Clutch and Brake Master Cylinders

[Calan]

How much under-dash pain do I have to go through to replace the clutch and brake master cylinders, now that they are at this point? (see pic below)

The firewall is going to be cleaned, filled, and sanded; should I pull the brake lines off at the front calipers and remove them and the proportioning valve on the firewall as well? (I may go with SS lines anyway). I'd also like to get the vac booster out of the way for painting if possible.

How much of a pain will it be to get brake fluid all the way back to the calipers and bled if I pull all of this?

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[PieEyedPiper]

From where you are now you an swap out the clutch master in <10minutes.
I've yet to dive into a full on brake bleeding session.

 

[Calan]

actually, I'm way past that

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[PieEyedPiper]

very cool!

 

[DSM Jeff]

Clean it up all nice when your in there, maybe touch up the engine bay with some fresh paint. You can also drop the wiring harness down that runs across the firewall and will only need to extend the brake resivour wires.
I just painted and shaved some of my engine bay this summer. I just finished cleaning up the underside of my car as well. Good luck man.

 

[Calan]

Clean it up all nice when your in there, maybe touch up the engine bay with some fresh paint. You can also drop the wiring harness down that runs across the firewall and will only need to extend the brake resivour wires.
I just painted and shaved some of my engine bay this summer. I just finished cleaning up the underside of my car as well. Good luck man.

... guess you didn't see this.

 

[DarthBulk]

It doesn't take long at all to re-fill all the lines. I just finished doing that on a 94 Talon. Just bleed the rear brakes first, otherwise the front brakes get hard and you just have a little pedal travel left for pumping fluid to the rears. Then it takes longer

 

[Calan]

Did you leave both bleeders open and pump fluid to each set of wheels two at a time, or did you do them all one wheel at a time?

What about power bleeders?

 

[DarthBulk]

For the rears, I left both bleeders open at first, until I saw fluid start to come out. Then I closed one brake, and bled the other. Then I closed that one, and bled the opposite. After I bled the front brakes as well, I went back and did one more bleed on each brake. I never tried power bleeders.

 

[DSM Jeff]

... guess you didn't see this.

I read through some of it. Looks good. I had finished up my bay a while back. Also running stainless hardline now. I've done a bit more work since then. I'm looking into a stronger bottom end and new turbo set up come spring.
Here's when I had things ready to go back;

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[MaNGiNa24]

I read through some of it. Looks good. I had finished up my bay a while back. Also running stainless hardline now. I've done a bit more work since then. I'm looking into a stronger bottom end and new turbo set up come spring.
Here's when I had things ready to go back;

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Damn that looks nice

 

[Calan]

That's awesome... hope to have mine looking something like that soon.

Do you have any pics showing where you mounted things back to the firewall? (resistor pack, defroster relay, AFPR(?), etc.? Also, where did you mount clips for the harness relocation?

Thanks for posting that

 

[DSM Jeff]

That's awesome... hope to have mine looking something like that soon.

Do you have any pics showing where you mounted things back to the firewall? (resistor pack, defroster relay, AFPR(?), etc.? Also, where did you mount clips for the harness relocation?

Thanks for posting that

The resister pack and relays are inside the car now. I basically took apart that part of the harness, pulled the pins and pulled them back through. You could easily just drop them down along with the main harness and run it just above the subframe. I do plan on relocating the fuse box come spring. I tracked down a full harness in good condition so I plan on working on that when its warm. My AFPR is mounted up where the a/c fuse/relay box used to be.
You can see all of my pics here, Built2Drive/Talon - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting But you'll probably need to scroll back to page 1 since they put the pics up recent first. You'll see.

Good luck with your build, I'm putting an engine together today. I just enjoy seeing others taking the time to clean up and rebuild and all that good stuff.