Cars that make you shake your head

[jpmxrider489]

I know I know Im sorry. But this was my first dsm non turbo. It was a project that I didnt know much about. But just so everyone knows, Im driving a tsi.

 

[HaveBlue83]

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Alright this Is a TSI I spotted on the freeway but don't tell this guy it is. He thinks it's an f-150.

TSi Beast mode! i love it HAHAHAHA

here's one on the military base......i just....WTFWTFWTFWTF

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[InfiniteGSX]

The thing is though a dsm cant handle like a honda. I loved my dsm but the #1 thing i hated was the handling and turning radius.

Honda's 'are' good track cars. But DSM's are evil track cars. I used to race my 95 Civic Coupe, build suspension at the local road course tracks and what not and never once had an ounce of fear from the car, I could have it sliding on all 4's around corners with ease. But I've never pushed my DSM's to that level due to the fear factor that the car is out handling my build suspension honda and not one squeal from the tires. I figure if I hit that level, I'll prob die from an accident.

Anyway, A++++ on this thread still going. I have soo many pictures I haven't even uploaded yet!

I know I know Im sorry. But this was my first dsm non turbo. It was a project that I didnt know much about. But just so everyone knows, Im driving a tsi.

Hey, yo! Chiwwww. We've all been there, well not all. I've been there, I did the 2gNT Turbo thing. a 2gNT ugly pos thing (should have pics somewhere)...

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BTW, thats not the worst it looked. The fenders were caked with bondo

 

[Mackadoches]

I almost wrecked when I saw this in front of me........What A Damn Shame

 

[Kheimbach]

You bring up a very good point.
I was wondering this the whole time I was looking at it.

Looks like the retarded off spring of 5 subie sport backs having butt sex with a down syndrome infused celica haha 😃👍

 

[mainerdsm]

You guys can say what you want but Ive ridden in a few dsm's and none of them have handled like my car. Think about it shorter wheel base width is not even an 1" off from a 1g and 4" off from a 2g , and lower center of gravity . Its not a matter of preference it's physic's. I dont know what honda's you guys have rode in but an accord is no a fine example. Thats a much bigger car and the wheel base is longer and narrower. Ride in a si-r spec crx thats how mines built very nice and stable and very quick. NO no d series powered either hehe.

both my 1g awd and fwd had great handling better then the honda i had but that was a 91 accord but back the 1g they didnt have bad turning radius.... theres things i did in my 1g nt handling wise that amazed me idk bout 2gs but both my 1gs handled like a sports car dsm vs crx i cant talk on that never drove a crx
so your saying a stock 1g or 2g will loose against a stock crx?

It depends on what your talking about, usdm spec crx's are shit. Mines a hf converted over to jdm sir specs. b16a y1 lsd tranny, for some reason even though im 100% white and american everyone think's fast is the best way. Honda's edge is small lite and gearing. I walk my buddies tuned and full bolt on and than some g35. Top end I would be done for as far as top speed but I never plan on trying to push my car over 145mph. They are made for mountain passes fast in the corner hold the throttle come out fast. Here ehhh imo we drive different so its not as refined for an american driving style.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

You guys can say what you want but Ive ridden in a few dsm's and none of them have handled like my car. Think about it shorter wheel base width is not even an 1" off from a 1g and 4" off from a 2g , and lower center of gravity . Its not a matter of preference it's physic's. I dont know what honda's you guys have rode in but an accord is no a fine example. Thats a much bigger car and the wheel base is longer and narrower. Ride in a si-r spec crx thats how mines built very nice and stable and very quick. NO no d series powered either hehe.



It depends on what your talking about, usdm spec crx's are shit. Mines a hf converted over to jdm sir specs. b16a y1 lsd tranny, for some reason even though im 100% white and american everyone think's fast is the best way. Honda's edge is small lite and gearing. I walk my buddies tuned and full bolt on and than some g35. Top end I would be done for as far as top speed but I never plan on trying to push my car over 145mph. They are made for mountain passes fast in the corner hold the throttle come out fast. Here ehhh imo we drive different so its not as refined for an american driving style.

Dude, nobody was talking shit. Calm down. I owned a track car Civic. And have built and had many built in my shop. A lot of DSM people here actually track their cars. Professionally. I've tracked my DSM. Not professionally but I have. And I agree honda's are damn good cars for Autocross/scca/road course.

BTW, you are talking Honda on a DSM Forum. We all know Honda peeps are still threatened by DSM's even tho real DSM people don't thrive to compete against lil grocery getter cars. We prefer much more. We prey on the V8 community.

 

[mainerdsm]

I didnt buy my car to drag race whats the point? Buy a foxbody build a supercharged 306 and make 600whp and torque and call it a day. I bought my crx to make it a back road carver, the point of that last post is because I think People are assuming Im meaning straight line. Honda's werent and aren't made to be drag cars. I find corner carving much more fun.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

I didnt buy my car to drag race whats the point? Buy a foxbody build a supercharged 306 and make 600whp and torque and call it a day. I bought my crx to make it a back road carver, the point of that last post is because I think People are assuming Im meaning straight line. Honda's werent and aren't made to be drag cars. I find corner carving much more fun.

Who said anything about drag racing? I said Track/SCCA/Road Race. Last time I was on a drag strip.... Was like 5+ years ago.

 

[minimotos95]

mainerdsm^ why not just get miata? out handle a honda(proven by numerous people on autocross tracks/parking lots) and they are dirt cheap because nobody wants a convertible.
my honda was fun in the twisties(dammit i miss that wagovan), as is most every other 4cyl FWD subcompact(CSMs, mazda things and VWs).... i had it understeer a few times which scared the piss out of me, went a little over the white line... hondas are easy cars to learn the limits of your tires in.

hondas were made to get 30-50mpg and last 250-300k+ not as performance cars of any kind.


yay for for off topic-ness

 

[mainerdsm]

mainerdsm^ why not just get miata? out handle a honda(proven by numerous people on autocross tracks/parking lots) and they are dirt cheap because nobody wants a convertible.
my honda was fun in the twisties(dammit i miss that wagovan), as is most every other 4cyl FWD subcompact(CSMs, mazda things and VWs).... i had it understeer a few times which scared the piss out of me, went a little over the white line... hondas are easy cars to learn the limits of your tires in.

hondas were made to get 30-50mpg and last 250-300k+ not as performance cars of any kind.


yay for for off topic-ness

Really? Autocross is boring as shit, and last time i knew they werent made for jsut reliability... You ever hear of sir, type r , type s? IN america sure a crx brand new cost $10k with a 90hp motor and skinny tires. You know how much one cost over sea's and the specs they had? $21k bought you a base trim sir crx.

SS Works CRX - YouTube

You ever read tuning articles? Honda's werent cookie cutter for cost , they were made so the tuning capabilities were endless. I just made my first previous comment to see how people reacted and my thought's were right.

If honda cars are strictly mpg and mileage why no matter what car you have, in the japanese market it cost $1000 evert year to register an older car . So instead of just keeping the car most of the time the car's are dumped and sold for parts or shipped to the aussie's. IN america in the early 80's and early 90's there was no real market for a high performance 4cyl car. Reason being why dsm's were never sold over sea's except for some edm and ukdm because they already had the evo's and a handle full of other 4cyl sporty cars. Because american's are all about straight speed and power, not nibble small sporty cars we made huge bulky sports cars and still do , SO we designed and made a 4cyl that met our "taste" . I could be wrong but thats how the rest of the world looks at our aspect of cars. We are the only country besides Australia who look down on small car's.

Crx-Civic racing experiment...

 

[minimotos95]

Really? Autocross is boring as shit, and last time i knew they werent made for jsut reliability... You ever hear of sir, type r , type s? IN america sure a crx brand new cost $10k with a 90hp motor and skinny tires. You know how much one cost over sea's and the specs they had? $21k bought you a base trim sir crx.


You ever read tuning articles? Honda's werent cookie cutter for cost , they were made so the tuning capabilities were endless. I just made my first previous comment to see how people reacted and my thought's were right.

who said anything about cost?
SIR is a downgrade from a SOHC, you have to rev this piss out of it to get power. AKA annoying DD where you have to downshift to pass.... now if it had a B20 that would be a different story
type R integra, great car, a little more power then the normal 'teg, mostly suspension work done, i would classify as quick DD, if it's a performance car the buick regal GS and pontiac GTP are too
type S: it's an late 90's accord correct? that's all i have to say
the s2000/NSX are performance cars not some little civic

If honda cars are strictly mpg and mileage why no matter what car you have, in the japanese market it cost $1000 evert year to register an older car . So instead of just keeping the car most of the time the car's are dumped and sold for parts or shipped to the aussie's. IN america in the early 80's and early 90's there was no real market for a high performance 4cyl car. Reason being why dsm's were never sold over sea's except for some edm and ukdm because they already had the evo's and a handle full of other 4cyl sporty cars. Because american's are all about straight speed and power, not nibble small sporty cars we made huge bulky sports cars and still do , SO we designed and made a 4cyl that met our "taste" . I could be wrong but thats how the rest of the world looks at our aspect of cars. We are the only country besides Australia who look down on small car's.

don't tell that to chrysler, mazda, mitsu or even GM circa late 80's
all the shelby mopars
mazda 323GTX and 2.2L turbo probe
starquests, turbo CSMs and DSMs
late 80's FWD 442 was an all motor 4 pushing somewhere around 200hp, not bad for an American car
mods, you should move these posts into their own thread.

 

[mainerdsm]

who said anything about cost?
SIR is a downgrade from a SOHC, you have to rev this piss out of it to get power. AKA annoying DD where you have to downshift to pass.... now if it had a B20 that would be a different story
type R integra, great car, a little more power then the normal 'teg, mostly suspension work done, i would classify as quick DD, if it's a performance car the buick regal GS and pontiac GTP are too
type S: it's an late 90's accord correct? that's all i have to say
the s2000/NSX are performance cars not some little civic

Explain how a sohc is a better motor? Down shift to pass? Type r little more power than a normal integra? What the hell 220hp compared to 180hp is a big jump. And gearing is different. So because you think because its not a torque monster and crazy fast in a straight line its not a sports car.... And SIR not being any better? its a low 14 second car high 13's on slicks oposed to 16 seconds! And b20? Oh god those are only good when mated with a vtec head. And rev the piss out of it to get power.... they are made for coming in to a corner with not a lot braking force the more braking you apply the less momentum. Downshifting coming in to a corner creates a lot greater corner force, NEVER EVER when spirtually driving a FF do you ever let of and hit the brakes.

Please explain how a gs regal and gtp are even in the same class...

What the heck do you think an sir honda is? What honda's are you even ridden in.

And btw japanese motors from the factory are tuned for 102 octane....

 

[BurrowZ]

Could you guys make a separate thread for this crap?

 

[mainerdsm]

Certainly

 

[minimotos95]

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4800rpm peak torque vs 7000rpm peak torque(b20 vs b16) torque is always more important then HP.
i would call not making torque until 7k revving the piss out of it, and you still only make 112 lb ft a D series makes that at much lower revs
with the fact that hondas are programed to fuel cut during engine breaking i would defiantly avoid high RPM engine braking. so i would either be coasting until the apex or i would e a gear high for the road speed to avoid running no fuel into an engine that's above 5kRPM


integra = family sedan/coupe
gran prix- family sedan/coupe
integra type R = 40HP more and some chassis improvement, in US only available as coupe(useless)
GTP - ^ that except came in sedan form too

i have ridden in a GSR swapped EF and also in trucks(TRD supercharged tundra 500+hp anyone?) that would spit that EF out.... they aren't as fast as you think they are

i think a mod needs to move our of topic BS or just delete our posts

 

[mainerdsm]

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4800rpm peak torque vs 7000rpm peak torque(b20 vs b16) torque is always more important then HP.
i would call not making torque until 7k revving the piss out of it, and you still only make 112 lb ft a D series makes that at much lower revs
with the fact that hondas are programed to fuel cut during engine breaking i would defiantly avoid high RPM engine braking. so i would either be coasting until the apex or i would e a gear high for the road speed to avoid running no fuel into an engine that's above 5kRPM


integra = family sedan/coupe
gran prix- family sedan/coupe
integra type R = 40HP more and some chassis improvement, in US only available as coupe(useless)
GTP - ^ that except came in sedan form too



i think a mod needs to move our of topic BS or just delete our posts

Torque is a low end useful tool with vehicles Hp is highway pull, entering a corner hot and keeping on the gas mid corner. You dont understand any vehicle physic's do you?

 

[minimotos95]

Torque is a low end useful tool with vehicles Hp is highway pull, entering a corner hot and keeping on the gas mid corner. You dont understand any vehicle physic's do you?

quit with the street racing talk

ok so you somehow enter the turn as fast as you were coming down the strait stay on the gas and hope the tires will scrub off the speed instead of understeering off a cliff... yeah, sounds perfect and that's why FWD track cars use massive brakes because they don't brake huh?... slow in fast out not the other way around.

either go make us a new thread or quit posting.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

I just made my first previous comment to see how people reacted and my thought's were right.

Oh, so you ARE a troll..

However, engine breaking without fuel is of interest to me since that's how DSMs are. Got any more on that?

 

[mainerdsm]

quit with the street racing talk

ok so you somehow enter the turn as fast as you were coming down the strait stay on the gas and hope the tires will scrub off the speed instead of understeering off a cliff... yeah, sounds perfect and that's why FWD track cars use massive brakes because they don't brake huh?... slow in fast out not the other way around.

either go make us a new thread or quit posting.

Your trying to school me when you drive an s10? Faster in to the corners the faster you come out. Lol you might be easier to explain stuff to by telling you to watch initial d.

 

[minimotos95]

at ricer logic, anime isn't real, the faster in faster out theory only apply s to motorcycles and on tracks where it's wide enough for a full on racing line(no publi road i have seen is this wide)
the thingaoutthe s10 isif i comeina turn to hot,i can induce oversteer, something no FWD and even most AWDs can do....with equal tires am willing to bet any real racer will beat your street racing a##, him in a shitty s10(yes insult my own vehicles) you in your mad tyte JDM swapped civic

troll you fail,but put up a good battle
me: some number +1 more trolls: 0
thank you try again sometime, on a subject you have knowledge of

pieeyed i think the term they use for it is DFCO, try searching around using that, i haven't done much research but from what i have been told is it shuts the injectors completely off at 0% throttle over ____RPMs

 

[mainerdsm]

Your dumb it was an insult towards you... you cant read either can you .

And btw initial d the manga has alot more info than most car magazines over here than you think.... Keiichi Tsuchiya himself read the manga and watched the anime to make sure the physic's and most of the lingo was up to par with reality. But i dont expect you to understand who Keiichi Tsuchiya is.

 

[GREEN4G63]

Found this on a local Craigslist ad.

 

[CanadianTalonTC]

Found this on a local Craigslist ad.

Is that a DSM? What tail lights are those?

 

[minimotos95]

^RSX.... i glanced at it and thought it was a RSX until i saw the 2g roof line