Car Completely Dead

[Boostin GST]

Was turning car on and turned it off two seconds later. Then i started it but everything went dead. tried hooking it up to my girls car. still nothing. looked at terminals, + terminal had buildup so i cleaned it and still nothing. Checked the Engine fuses none blown from what i saw. Another thing. i saw a wire looking like the ground wire on battery behind engine just sitting there, but i had no idea where it went. but that was before my car started. it started without it connected, so any ideas?

 

[luv2rallye]

On the battery (-) post should be 2 heavy gauge cables. One to frame right behind battery and other goes down through harness to starter frame. Clean and retighten (-) post terminal and the both ends of both cables. And recheck those fuses - pull each one and test with ohmeter or with test light to battery (+). Definately sounds like poor connection or fuse.

 

[Boostin GST]

well im not able to get to work=[ hope my manager doesnt call anytime soon. i checked those fuses and even the ones inside, no luck. took the battery off to see where that - wire went. couldnt find a location. but the thing is the car was starting with that not connect right before. its when i turned off the car and turned it back on. anyone else have sugestions.

 

[Boostin GST]

well i didnt show up to work and didnt call in and good thing manager hasnt called. ill have my computer on in case anyone replies. ill have aim on, b00stingst3 is my screen name in case anyone has an idea.

 

[oldman]

Try and be more specific, was it cranking...etc?

 

[Boostin GST]

nothing lights up no lights fan gauges completely dead

 

[oldman]

nothing lights up no lights fan gauges completely dead

Are you saying you got no juice at all when you turn the key to on position? If so, I would check the terminals and fuses again.

 

[Boostin GST]

ok let me try and be as accurate as possible. I was done putting on my new 18g. looked to see any wires off, saw the ground wire behind engine loose but was like wtf i didnt mess with that. so i decided to deal with it after im sure turbo is all done. turned on the car for 5 secs. and was like i forgot antifreeze. i turned it off. I was putting anti freeze and i hear clicking while pouring........click click click click. i filled it and went to start my car. i turned it on for 2 seconds and turned it off real quick. then i tried to turn it on again but this time all the lights and radio antenna EVERYTHING pretty much turned off. car didnt do anything after that. was 4 in the morning so i decided i need sleep bc i had to go to work next morning but before i would go to sleep i would post the problem on here. well i wake up two hours before and get right on it. first thing i do is check fuses. none blown. then i look at terminals. positive had build up so i took it off and cleaned it. still no juice. took the battery off and connected + and - together for a sec and it had juice. so then i went to check inside fuses. none blown. i double checked engine fuses, none blown.

So now im stuck at home with no clue. Thing is where does the other ground wire go. Starter and where? I know i didnt disconnect it last night and it ran fine without it. so what could have caused this? pics of location would be great. Which fuse should i really pay attention to? any steps to take?

 

[4G63 For Me]

Make sure the ground connector from the negative battery cable is connected to SOMETHING. I don't really know too much about electricity, but I'm sure its not good if it isn't grounded. It usually bolts onto the firewall. Also, disconnect both battery cables, clean both EXTREMELY well, clean both posts EXTREMELY well and try again.

I've had this same problem before. I cleaned the posts, reconnected the wires, still nothing. I ran out of options, cleaned both connectors and posts very well, tried again and fired right up. Hope this helps.

 

[Boostin GST]

just to clarify. the negative has one grouned to car and then another going down behind engine. that one is off. but weird thing is that i saw that one disconnected and it started right up. it was when i turned it on the second time after i finished putting the antifreeze. I started it and it ran fine. turned it off, tried to start it again and everything turned off.

 

[oldman]

I just went ouside and looked at my 1g, the short ground wire is grounded at the firewall and the other one routes into the wire harness and I can't see where it goes without jacking up the car. If you have a ground wire just hanging around then it should be grounded. Someone with a 2g should be able to tell you where it should go. Good luck.

 

[Boostin GST]

heh thnx for doing that. thing that i think is weird is that it started with that wire disconnected. i know i still need it connected but its weird how it did start. another thing is when i filled up the antifreeze did i wet something that i shouldnt have? i might have spilled just a bit but not more than 2 or 3 ounces, very little. what fuse could control all the car? has to be something like that since nothing in the car works.

 

[oldman]

It does sound like you might have shorted something but first thing first, ground the loose wire properly and see what happens. Someone else will have to answer your fuse question, I don't know which fuse would control everything. At least you got a day off.

 

[Boostin GST]

when my car turned off completely i went straight to that ground wire and touched it against engine to see if it was that. nothing happened, left the headlights on to see if they would turn on. i tried that today since i had no other idea but still nothing.

 

[Boostin GST]

heh yea i got a day off but i didnt call in bc i didnt feel like hearing her panic saying we need you here bs. so hopefully i still have a job if not how am i gonna fix my car heh

 

[RedRain]

I know I might sound stupid saying this, but do you have enough voltage coming from your battery? How much voltage do you have in it? Might just be a bad battery since no power is getting anywhere. Just a basic suggestion I guess .

 

[4G63 For Me]

So the main negative cable wire still runs into the harness and the grounding wire coming off it is disconnected? That could very well be the problem. Or perhaps starting it without that connected caused a short somewhere. I suggest you call into work (make something up about puking and not being able to talk on the phone), ground that wire properly and try again.

 

[Boostin GST]

Well i got under the car and saw two places to mount it, right under the starter was a bolt on the left and an empty hole to put a bolt. looked for one to put in the empty with no luck so i took the one on the driver side off and mounted it there. got my hopes up a bit but still no power.

 

[Boostin GST]

ohhh and more bad news........i work a double today. go back in at 6. just my luck. i actually work 4 doubles in a row. yesturday was one and the next three days :thumbdown :thumbdown

 

[luv2rallye]

what fuse could control all the car? has to be something like that since nothing in the car works.

In the engine fusebox there is are 60 and 100 amp fusable links which power everything (except starter main power). Do your headlights work? If not you have a major supply problem - battery, fuses, or bad connections.

 

[Boostin GST]

ok just to be safe i took off the terminals and battery.....got sand paper and grinded both ends to metal, got the terminals and used my dremmel to get all the metal showing. i tightened the - terminal with both ground wires. then i put the + terminal and tightened that. then the white wires that head to fusebox in engine were next to be put tight on the + terminal. when i touched them to the + terminal little sparks showed there was power. but when i was tightening i accidentally hit the wrench on the strut bar for a split second. heh no more spark. i dont know if it was working and i messed it up again or it was still not working. I checked all the engine fuses again and inside fuses and none were blown. Im just checking the small fuses not the big black ones on the engine. dont know how to test those. any advice now?

 

[Boostin GST]

In the engine fusebox there is are 60 and 100 amp fusable links which power everything (except starter main power). Do your headlights work? If not you have a major supply problem - battery, fuses, or bad connections.

no the headlights dont work. nothing does. read my last post and tell me what you think could be?

 

[Boostin GST]

checked those two fuses.....not blown.

 

[Boostin GST]

figured it out....so strange. after i sanded every connection with a dremmel it , INCLUDING THE RED PAINT on + Terminal it worked fine until i touched wrench with strut bar while putting it back on. Then no spark going through again. But after I got bored and took off the black paint on the - terminal it all started back up. heh so weird how one second it works and the other its like back to step one.

so conclusion. take off the paint on the terminal ends.