Calipers

[liquordrunk]

I searched some on here and dsmtalk. I know that these companies(Wilwood,Brembo,Baer) Sell the calipers by them selves. But the thing is that do they sell them for stock eclipse size rotors. I have a set of stock brembo rotors And I would like to up grade JUSt my calipers. I have emailed each company but with no response on the price? Would anyone happen to know. the proce or a website that will show the price and the information of if they sell the caliper for STOCK size rotors
thanks

 

[RamenPride]

I have a set of stock brembo rotors And I would like to up grade JUSt my calipers.

you won't see any difference from upgrading just the calipers

 

[liquordrunk]

you won't see any difference from upgrading just the calipers

I already have these.
I just want the calipers now

 

[definitiveno]

I already have these.
I just want the calipers now

what are they?

 

[BaddAssGst]

you won't see any difference from upgrading just the calipers

Your telling me that by going from a single piston caliper to a dual piston caliper, that I will see no difference in stopping power? I can tell you right now that your statement is false. I have done the upgrade on another car and drove it pre-dual pistons and post-dual and there is a WORLD of a difference.

This was all done on stock autozone rotors and pads, no performance anything related.

 

[FORMONTOYA]

if all id the same and all you did was upgrade from say...a single to dual piston caliper you would get a better initial bite on the disc, however the pads would probably heat up and fade quicker also. i just do not grasp the concept of wanting to half ass or skip around on a project. start with the common, simple stuff first. upgrade the pads and lines first, it will solve 75% of you guys issues. if you need more, upgrade to plus size rotors. if your all out road course/autox racing, do the complete package. why spend all that money on something you will get no use out of????


jim

 

[RamenPride]

Your telling me that by going from a single piston caliper to a dual piston caliper, that I will see no difference in stopping power? I can tell you right now that your statement is false.

That's NOT what I'm saying at all. They're not even talking about the big brake upgrade (which I have done).

I was under the impression that the original poster wanted upgraded calipers to go with stock size/single caliper brake discs. Not sure if it would even be cost effective to do such a thing. Sure you'd have more clamping force but in the end you're still stuck with that tiny rotor and same surface area for the brake pads.

 

[BaddAssGst]

I understand what your saying but I guess that is not what I thought he asked. If you stay with the same caliper (say single to single) you will hardly notice any difference unless your going with aftermarket rotors and pads.

In order to do a "big brake upgrade", your going to need to go with bigger/different rotors and pads. In order to use the better calipers (larger), your going to need a bigger set of rotors and a different set of pads. You can't fit a dual piston calipers on a stock 90 rotor.

 

[cb3016]

your best bet is to just to do the big brake upgrade, by getting brembo drilled slotted you have already pretty much gotten the best out of your brakes as your going to get. LITTLE things you can do your self that won't cost you $XXXX.XX dollars is:

1) Paint your calipers with ceramic caliper paint
2) Get ceramic brake pads
3) Stainless Steel Brake lines

I have TPS Drilled slotted and the rest of what I listed done, much much better than stock. But if you have your heart set on calipers i think Endless has a 8 piston caliper for our cars but i'm not entirley sure.

 

[Todd TCE]

You guys are all kinda right and kinda wrong.

There are no calipers from the aftermarket which will fit your stock mounts. Stop looking.
If there were then you could in fact argue the benefits of one vs stock parts.

Lots of talk about "bigger" calipers. Bigger how? The hesitation in posting the real issue tells me there's a lack of understanding here.

Calipers 101: More pistons does not mean more brake. Larger calipers do not make for more brake. What IS effective in fact is piston area. Total piston area DOES mean more brake. Efficiency issues, pad deflection and such aside the twin pot later caliper for example does not make more brake. Nor does the swap to a four pot or six pot IF the total piston area is the same.

Selecting a caliper, that does not exist for example, with a four pot design and a total piston area of 4.8sq" (4 x 1.75) would add about 10% more brake torque to the front rotor than the stock single pot or twin pot (seeing they both yield about 4.2-4.4 if I recall). And in this case the brakes will have more bite with less pedal pressure required. The down side is bias is shifted up front, pedal feel is poor and the fronts will tend to overheat in due time.

The fit of a more modest area caliper, if it existed, would be OK. Ideal area would be the same as you have now. But that's not going to get you more brake. All you would get is a lighter caliper perhaps, a better pad selection and a quicker response time from the caliper being a four pot for example.

The bottom line is that this would probably prove a foolish expense for most people. Seeing as you'd have better calipers and the same old rotors there'd be little reason for this expense. And no, those big brand name rotors won't change a thing either. A rotor of the same size and width won't alter any of the braking of the vehicle. Pad bite may be enhanced a bit but the torque and thermal capacity will stay the same.

 

[liquordrunk]

I was under the impression that the original poster wanted upgraded calipers to go with stock size/single caliper brake discs. .

Yes they are stock size rotors. I got these through a trade. Plus i dont want to go with bigger rims. I was just wondering . If any company sells just a stock replacement, CAuse if not. I am just gonna send these calipers off to TRG to get power coated

 

[onepimpclipse]

Yes they are stock size rotors. I got these through a trade. Plus i dont want to go with bigger rims. I was just wondering . If any company sells just a stock replacement, CAuse if not. I am just gonna send these calipers off to TRG to get power coated

Did you even bother to read Todd's post? Evidently not. You ask us for help then don't read the responses. That makes sense.

There are no calipers from the aftermarket which will fit your stock mounts. Stop looking.

 

[liquordrunk]

Did you even bother to read Todd's post? Evidently not. You ask us for help then don't read the responses. That makes sense.

I read his response. But every one has different opinions and information. Just cause one person says one thing doesn't mean that another person my have different information.
and if you are not posting information here that is helpful. Then dont post. thanks

 

[jtmcinder]

Until you figure out who is who, I would actually suggest that you stop posting.

When Todd says X about brakes, that's pretty much the end of it. That he even bothers to answer posts where there is no possibility of business is a blessing we should not abuse or take for granted.

Mods - put this turkey to bed, please.

- Jtoby

 

[Todd TCE]

Thanks but I'd not go that far...

I was simply trying to explain why the search for a caliper to fit the stock rotor from aftermarket suppliers listed would prove fruitless. While many of those companies DO offer calipers that will fit the rotor, it's not the rotor that's the problem. It's the mounting. Assuming the properly sized parts were found to start with. The closest you'll come for this is the parts off the 3000GT platform. But even they have issues being adapted to the Eclipse. A quick search might pull up some of that data.

If the gent wishes to look for further info and perhaps find a part after nearly 15 years that nobody knows about I don't mind. It's not going to be a part from what is the common aftermarket. Maybe a sister vehicle or sorts- I know the Tiburon uses Mits produced parts for example. If you find something please let us know.

 

[liquordrunk]

Until you figure out who is who, I would actually suggest that you stop posting.

When Todd says X about brakes, that's pretty much the end of it. That he even bothers to answer posts where there is no possibility of business is a blessing we should not abuse or take for granted.

Mods - put this turkey to bed, please.

- Jtoby

I got the information that I was after. And for Todd it's not like i know who he is or his knowledge of the subject. I have no reason to not believe him. JTMCINDER You're so helpful. thanks