Big16g Oil supply line location

[Twizzle]

Ok im so confused now. I got a new big16g and a ss feed line, and now im reading everywhere that its best to be feeding from oil filter housing? im completely lost... my previous big16g (i didnt install) had the oil supply line coming from the block i think using that stock metal line. can i get a picture or something , i need this cleared up so bad. i would never have thought that a simple big16g install would become such a pain. oh and this is a Slowboy Racing 18" line, is it long enough??

 

[Twizzle]

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[DSMeclipse4G63]

I know on my car the oil pressure line for the turbo came off the oil filter housing. Since I have a 2g I needed the ss braided line, being as though you are a 1g you can use all stock lines so there shouldnt be any problems. Just swap the turbo in and hook the stock lines up.
Andrew

 

[Twizzle]

perhaps someone else can answer my question.. i HAVE the ss 18" line, so im putting it to use. but i read that getting oil from the head isnt as good as the oil filter housing. i cannot find a writeup or anything regarding this matter, at least one of you must know what im talking about.

 

[dsmayhem]

1. Don't bump your own threads. :thumbdown

2. I believe that the reason for tapping it off the filter housing is due to the higher oil pressure there. Being that most non-BB turbos use the oil pressure to float the bearing this is a good thing.

 

[sweet97]

I just installed one. Road Race engineering has pics, Mark

 

[badboyr66]

ya i kinda wanna know about this too

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

perhaps someone else can answer my question.. i HAVE the ss 18" line, so im putting it to use. but i read that getting oil from the head isnt as good as the oil filter housing. i cannot find a writeup or anything regarding this matter, at least one of you must know what im talking about.

WOW smart ass use your stock source!!! Take the stock oil line or the SS(since your so damn hell bent) and source it on the stock location. It shouldnt be hard to find when you remove the damn turbo.. The oil presssure in the head is a bit lower then the block so no it is not a good source.
Andrew
ps the SS braiaded line is for custom installs like a mitsu turbo on a 2g and so on, there are no benefits with using it other then it is versitile.

 

[Twizzle]

WOW smart ass use your stock source!!! Take the stock oil line or the SS(since your so damn hell bent) and source it on the stock location. It shouldnt be hard to find when you remove the damn turbo.. The oil presssure in the head is a bit lower then the block so no it is not a good source.
Andrew
ps the SS braiaded line is for custom installs like a mitsu turbo on a 2g and so on, there are no benefits with using it other then it is versitile.

wow, your contadicting yourself. listen, i asked how to feed from oil filter housing IF it was better. apparently it is better oil pressure.. wouldnt that be better for my turbo? oh and regarding the stock pipe vs ss line... have you ever looked at a stock 1g oil feed line? the the holes on each side are different diameters, and one is REALLY small. the ss line on the other hand, has 2 larger diameter holes, wouldnt this mean better flow? less restictive? and my stock source is in the head....so if its not a good source, WHY WOULD I USE IT? your telling me to use stock location, and then your saying its not a good source...

edit: i read that rre writeup, and i now know where to install. DSMeclipse4g63, before you make uneducated statements.... please remember your just making yourself look dumber than i am for asking the question. it IS beneficial to feed from oil filter housing, and its beneficial for ALL TURBOS, doesnt matter if its custom or not because your getting fresh filtered oil. this is why i shouldnt use my stock location, as you INSIST.

 

[dsmayhem]

I'm pretty sure I answered your question a couple posts up. Not to say you can't user the stock location, but the filter housing is probably a better source.

Oh and for some BB turbos I believe it is better to be fed off the head as they require much less oil.

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

Ok here is what I said:
Use the stock location
use either the SS line or stock line
head oil pressure is lower then block oil pressure

I never said the stock source is bad, I said use the stock source and either line will work. Please understand what I said, and realize Im TRYING TO HELP you!! I did in the first post with what you should do, but you just shrugged it off. Like Ive said twice before use EITHER LINE and USE THE STOCK SOURCE whatever it may be, Your welcome for the help.
Andrew

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

Ill post a pic tomorrow of my setup...if you even care.

 

[joeym4130]

I was always told from shops and such that with a Mitsu style water/oil cooled stock-style center cartridge that the stock oil feed location from the head were just dandy. With dry bearing (oil cooled) like the garett turbos is where you want to get the more constant pressure from the oil filter housing to float the bearing, unless its a BB GT style too much oil pressure can shorten the life.

 

[Twizzle]

so can someone please verify if i should use oil filter housing or stock location. i need someone with a positive answer please! DSMeclipse4g63, my stock location is on the head... i asked for the BEST location for my turbo... which hasnt been cleared up yet, everything ive read so far has been opinion or what they have been told. im not accusing anyone of being wrong, i just need someone with the credentials so i can trust them. ill use the stock location on the head if it is sufficient, but RRE recommends oil filter housing , even if its just upgrading to a big16g. and i know rre is very knowledgable...however they may be wrong too.

 

[dsmayhem]

If RRE says filter housing..then use the filter housing. You could always just call places like Forced Performance and Slowboy and see what they say since you apparently don't trust RRE.

 

[92awddsm]

In order for you run it from the oir filter housing, you need to install a restictor because the increased oil pressure will blow through the tubo seals. Just use the stock locatin with the ss line.

 

[Twizzle]

In order for you run it from the oir filter housing, you need to install a restictor because the increased oil pressure will blow through the tubo seals. Just use the stock locatin with the ss line.

THANK YOU! you just saved my turbo.

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

so can someone please verify if i should use oil filter housing or stock location. i need someone with a positive answer please! DSMeclipse4g63, my stock location is on the head... i asked for the BEST location for my turbo... which hasnt been cleared up yet, everything ive read so far has been opinion or what they have been told. im not accusing anyone of being wrong, i just need someone with the credentials so i can trust them. ill use the stock location on the head if it is sufficient, but RRE recommends oil filter housing , even if its just upgrading to a big16g. and i know rre is very knowledgable...however they may be wrong too.

I would think for a b16g install with a ss line would be for a 2g. Since my stock location is on the oil filter housing thats why they say to source it there. Because you should only buy the ss braided line if your installing a mitsu turbo on a 2g. the stock location should be more then good enough being as though the 14b and 16g's have the same exact setup. I have attached a pic of my setup to try and clear things up, but Like I said use the stock location.
Andrew

 

[sweet97]

I just installed an EVO turbo on my '93 Talon. I bought a ss line and ran it from the oil filter housing. It offers oil that has just been through the filter and higher pressure. mark

 

[92awddsm]

I just installed an EVO turbo on my '93 Talon. I bought a ss line and ran it from the oil filter housing. It offers oil that has just been through the filter and higher pressure. mark

Yes it does offer higher pressure and that is what will get you in trouble. The stock mitsu turbos were designed to run between 5-20 psi of oil pressure. You can get as high as 100psi or more of pressure from the oil filter housing. Can you imagine how much force that is on the turbo oil seals? 9 times out of 10, oil willl be forced past the seals and then you will start to have problems. I would suggest retricting the oil flow to the turbo if you are feeding it from the oil pump. I wouldnt want to see you waste a new evoIII turbo and Im sure you wouldnt either.

 

[sweet97]

I have heard that. I will contact some turbo suppliers for their opinion. It probably would be best for a ball bearing setup. Mark

 

[92awddsm]

I have heard that. I will contact some turbo suppliers for their opinion. It probably would be best for a ball bearing setup. Mark

Actually, ball bearing turbos also require less oil pressure. Too much will shorten the life of those turbos also.

 

[sweet97]

Well then I am at a loss. Why are the lines sold and to be istalled at the filter housing? Mark

 

[sweet97]

Called RRE and was told no problem with the EVO III. Did say no good with a ball bearing turbo. Mark

 

[sweet97]

My ss line has a very small hole in the inlet bolt so oil allowed into the turbo bearing housing is restricted. Of course the oil return is large. 2nd gen motors hav their turbo's supplied from the oil filter housing? Mark