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I say since you are wanting to do it for the track do not do exhaust. Just take off the exhaust as stated above, all you have to do is remove the downpipe which is extremely easy. If you are not willing to do this at the track than I would say go ahead and do exhaust. Datalogger would be my next suggestion. This way you could also tell partially when that fuel pump is running out. Make sure to stall it up off the line when you go to run, otherwise you will be highly dissappointed in yours times!
 
skinnykenny84 said:
I personaly would get some exhaust work done before I go cranking up the boost all willie nillie. that would be like you breathing threw a straw all day when you could just open your mouth :boring: I also believe you would benefit more from a free flowing exhaust than an couple psi. that added boost wouldnt help AS MUCH as added boost with an exhaust sys. u dont need to run out and buy a $800sys. go to a muffler shop and get some pipe made and if you know them remove the cat and that actually makes a huge difference. I dropped several tenths when i went from stock to a 3" turbo back. :talon:

Or he could do the fuel pump, turn up the boost, and then just drop the exhaust after the downpipe. Benefits of free-flowing exhaust, less weight, and more power, all combined.
 
95bLaCkGsTuRbO said:
I'm not one to judge, but if you swing that way that's fnie by me. I'm not sure about the other one's but Defiant get's my pic. He has a sense of humor and with social security rolling in soon you will have that financial security as well. Don't know if he is single or not but I'm assuming so. I say go for it!!!
ROFL
 
DSMLink. Single best mod I ever did for my car. When paired with the correct amount of time, patience, and knowledge, can make your car run faster and more consistantly than you ever dreamed.

Matt.
 
Enraged78 said:
DSMLink. Single best mod I ever did for my car. When paired with the correct amount of time, patience, and knowledge, can make your car run faster and more consistantly than you ever dreamed.

Matt.


Agreed! What it does for the price......it is a steal!
 
Enraged78 said:
DSMLink. Single best mod I ever did for my car. When paired with the correct amount of time, patience, and knowledge, can make your car run faster and more consistantly than you ever dreamed.

Matt.

Thats great but he does'nt even know how to use a datalogger so what good is DSMLink?
 
Nitrous. :thumb: .

It's easy to install and give you a good ammount of extra power when at the track.
 
gamingguru said:
Nitrous. :thumb: .

It's easy to install and give you a good ammount of extra power when at the track.


i would not recommend to do that until you have the air to fuel ratio correct.. Unless you want to spray the outside of your intercooler with nitrous I'm OK with that. :cool:

Go with the dsm link and learn to tune your car! i had no clue how to use it at first, it took sometime to understand what is what and why things are displaying. i now have my aem and that is truly the best mod i ever bought! ;)
 
I agree that you shouldn't run NO2 if your AFR is too high, but if you are worried you can always just put in the next higher fuel jet and then be sure you are safe. Unless your fuel pump gives out on you, you are pretty much for sure going to be running rich.
 
tsibryan said:
Or he could do the fuel pump, turn up the boost, and then just drop the exhaust after the downpipe. Benefits of free-flowing exhaust, less weight, and more power, all combined.
True, he could do that. I was thinking something that he could use all the time and on the street. Now correct me if I am wrong but isnt there some down sides to running an open down pipe? I mean if not then why does 99% of people on this site have an exhaust system? Plus if just a 3" turbo back can cause boost creep issues, then what happens when you run no exhaust? someone school me :talon: oh by the way my questions are about the original thread starters mods. not someone that is HIGHLY tuned with stand alone management etc
 
well, yes dropping the exhaust after the downpipe is the cheapest thing to do, but have you ever ran a car without an exhaust? especially a street car. you don't want something loud on the street. thats why 99% of people have a cat back
 
vr6chris said:
well, yes dropping the exhaust after the downpipe is the cheapest thing to do, but have you ever ran a car without an exhaust? especially a street car. you don't want something loud on the street. thats why 99% of people have a cat back
My point exactly! :thumb: :talon: still would like to know about the bad effects of no exhaust on a reletively stock car? got to be something.
 
As long as you have your turbo on then you really shouldn't have any problems with just running your O2 housing except for noise and polution. You don't have to worry about backpressure on a turbo car really. :thumb:
 
milz said:
i would not recommend to do that until you have the air to fuel ratio correct.. Unless you want to spray the outside of your intercooler with nitrous I'm OK with that. :cool:

Go with the dsm link and learn to tune your car! i had no clue how to use it at first, it took sometime to understand what is what and why things are displaying. i now have my aem and that is truly the best mod i ever bought! ;)

There are far better fogger systems for nitrous than intercooler sprayers, since that's where you're getting the gain anyway. "you mean i'm filling my engine bay with nitrous and gaining power?"

Amusingly enough, C02 (just as cold) reverses the gains nitrous intercooler sprayers give you. FWIW.
 
gamingguru said:
As long as you have your turbo on then you really shouldn't have any problems with just running your O2 housing except for noise and polution. You don't have to worry about backpressure on a turbo car really. :thumb:

Your need some backpressure one a turbo. That's why there is a little thing called boost creep and spike. If he runs open o2 housing his mbc that is set at let's say 15 psi will spike to 22-23 and stay there, trust me I know I've done it. Open o2 is not the way to go. Only do more harm than good. Not to mention the fact that the exhaust gases will burn the crap out of your alternator and heatsoak under your hood in mere second. You do have to worry about backpressure if you run a run of the mill MBC. Once you get into electronic one's then I can see maybe trying it but still wouldn't do it then. Even Shep was running some exhaust when he was in the 9's
 
gixrman said:
Thats great but he does'nt even know how to use a datalogger so what good is DSMLink?

So why not start learning with dsmlink? IMO it is alot easier to use than a logger and afc where you have to watch your timing to find knock and all that good stuff.
 
Well the best single mod I did on my car was my 20g :p

But as for a first mod.........I would say throw in a pump, 190lph since the 255 can overrun and raise the boost a couple pounds. Whats the boost to hp numbers for a 14b?? 1 pound when effiecient is like 11hp???

Not sure where I heard that or if its true, but when I turned up the boost with my pump, I definitely felt it on the butt dyno, which means there were some ponies there for sure. But honestly if your going to mod your car, do the exhaust first, completely!!!!!!! Grow into your exhaust, don't add on to it later. Then get a logger and some tunning tool like an afc at the SAME TIME. Trust me, its worth it spend the cash at once. You need both....its like having only one sock :thumb:
 
slugsgomoo said:
There are far better fogger systems for nitrous than intercooler sprayers, since that's where you're getting the gain anyway. "you mean i'm filling my engine bay with nitrous and gaining power?"

Amusingly enough, C02 (just as cold) reverses the gains nitrous intercooler sprayers give you. FWIW.


I'm kinda lost? filling the engine bay with nitrous and gaining power WTF

look at his mod list!! I'm just try to be a nice guy and trying to help him NOT blow his motor!! Yes he could do nitrous but he doesn't have any motor work ie (forged pistons) i know its NOT a must!!! TO BE SAFE I WOULD!! (thats what i think!!) i was saying go with the intercooler sprayer to lower the intake temp if he decide to use nitrous.. I was told nitrous is very cold when sprayed (yes CO2 works very well also)

"Amusingly enough, C02 (just as cold) reverses the gains nitrous intercooler sprayers give you."

could u explain that for me?
 
for the thread starter how much is a "modest budget" $ 100? 200? 300? 10,000? ROFL
 
100-200.

Thx for all the input fellas.

I'm currently enlisted in the army and i just recieved my paper stating that i'll be shipped out November 9th. With that being said, i dont think i have enough time and experience on my hands to do any kind of tuning, unless I get some extra help.

I'll go with the fuel pump. Its the Walbro 190lp right? Start off at 17psi, and maybe go to 18-19 at most.

About my exhaust, i do plan to keep it stock, so that it'll be easier for my parents if they decide to sell the car. I'm gonna go ahead and unbolt my downpipe for a day, drive it around the woods to test and check for any problems. If it's all good, then i'll bolt it back up that day and take it off when i go to the tracks. I'll also be putting in 103 octane at the tracks.

If anybody from the northside of the Chicago area wants to lend a hand to a soldier, that'd be appreciated.

Thanks.
 
if u do a 225 you should get some type of fpr! 190 your set! :rocks:
Good luck, i hope that you enjoy your last days before you leave!

If i was closer i would help you out!! :(
 
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