auto vs manual boost controller

[my dreamt dsm]

whats the difference between the manual and auto boost controller?
manual you do by hand and auto is program through the controller. Is there really a pro or con on one or the other? i know that manual b/c are cheaper then auto b/c...
i just got my gst and wanting to turn up to 15lbs of boost... im looking into halman b/c... will the auto make me look in that direction.
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[DWR-DSM]

Search the forums. Look this up best boost controller

 

[my dreamt dsm]

my bad, i was typing in "manual boost controller vs auto boost controller" in the search and came up with nothing! thank's for the point in the right direction!

 

[DWR-DSM]

No problem, if you want more forums just type boost controller

 

[1sttimedsmr]

well if you just want to boost 15 lbs just do what i did . home made manual boost controller and it works perfect and i haven't lost any pressure. cheap and easy. also i read that manual b/c are more reliable.

 

[my dreamt dsm]

from my searches i've learned that the closer the mbc is to the turbo the better. but with the electronic b/c... it's mounted in the cockpit. with that being said, im guessing electric b/c are for show... sort of??? and i guess that when you get really specific, that's when a electric controller comes into play, controlling psi levels in different gears which a manual can't do i guess!

"hope this helps future searchers"

 

[DSMtaco]

To answer your question...the main factor is cost. MBC are normally a much cheaper avenue than electronic controllers. If your worried about boost adjustments from the cabin...get a Hallman Evolution controller with the cockpit cable. I've seen them in person...pretty nifty.

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[synthetek]

I think you have the wrong terminology here, I believe you are referring to manual boost controller vs electronic boost controller or MBC vs EBC. The difference is a manual boost controller requires you to psychically turn a knob that controls the valve in the boost controller which usually requires stopping the car and opening the hood, with an electronic boost controller the valve is remotely controlled electronically and can be adjusted in the car while driving. Anther benefit to an EBC is that they store more than one boost level so you can change between 2 presets, for example 15lbs for everyday driving then change to 20lbs at the push of a button when you want more boost. The downside to the EBC is that they usually cost alot more than an MBC.

 

[synthetek]

from my searches i've learned that the closer the mbc is to the turbo the better. but with the electronic b/c... it's mounted in the cockpit. with that being said, im guessing electric b/c are for show... sort of???

That is not correct, the boost control solenoid is still located under the hood as close to the turbo as an MBC, its just remotley controlled electronicaly from inside the car.

 

[my dreamt dsm]

I think you have the wrong terminology here, I believe you are referring to manual boost controller vs electronic boost controller or MBC vs EBC. The difference is a manual boost controller requires you to psychically turn a knob that controls the valve in the boost controller which usually requires stopping the car and opening the hood, with an electronic boost controller the valve is remotely controlled electronically and can be adjusted in the car while driving. Anther benefit to an EBC is that they store more than one boost level so you can change between 2 presets, for example 15lbs for everyday driving then change to 20lbs at the push of a button when you want more boost. The downside to the EBC is that they usually cost alot more than an MBC.

thanks. understood, that pretty much sums it up!

 

[carcrazy144]

ok, ive heard that you can't use manual boost controllers in areas where the weather changes a lot like the northeast. The computer needs to compensate for changes in air density which would change in northeast states for winter and summer. You would need to use an ebc to allow the computer to make these changes. I don't know if this is correct, if someone could help my confusion that would be helpful and appreciated.

 

[knochgoon24]

I use an MBC. The weather really doesn't mess with it. Yeah, I get colder intake temps when it's freezing outside with snow on the ground, but it works good enough from me. At 15psi, you're not on the verge of breaking anything if you go up or down 2psi.

 

[tkelly27]

ok, ive heard that you can't use manual boost controllers in areas where the weather changes a lot like the northeast. The computer needs to compensate for changes in air density which would change in northeast states for winter and summer. You would need to use an ebc to allow the computer to make these changes. I don't know if this is correct, if someone could help my confusion that would be helpful and appreciated.

This is not true for mass air or speed density systems. Used MBC on both systems in the 20* winter and the 100* summer, no issues.

 

[carcrazy144]

so aroud 15 psi does't matter, but what if i get up around 20 or 25 psi. Does it start to cause problems with an mbc or is it still not an issue?

 

[98gsxtuner]

from my searches i've learned that the closer the mbc is to the turbo the better. but with the electronic b/c... it's mounted in the cockpit. with that being said, im guessing electric b/c are for show... sort of??? and i guess that when you get really specific, that's when a electric controller comes into play, controlling psi levels in different gears which a manual can't do i guess!

"hope this helps future searchers"

The electronic boost controller isn't mounted in the cockpit I have mine mounted right by the BOV the only part of the electronic boost controller thats mounted in the car is the switch. I have mine adjusted at 10 for normal driving and 20 psi for track days and it changes with the flick of that switch.

 

[knochgoon24]

so aroud 15 psi does't matter, but what if i get up around 20 or 25 psi. Does it start to cause problems with an mbc or is it still not an issue?

Oh, no. They still work fine. I'm just saying that even if you did get a boost fluctuation, it's not going to make that much of a difference.

Now, if you don't follow the correct upgrade path, and you start walking on that jagged edge of safe (usually head studs nearing 20psi) then the extra boost could make or break. But by that point, if you're stupid enough not to upgrade properly, you probably deserve it.

That's what I was referring to.

 

[97gst_spyder]

Link to said homemade mbc?