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Posted by 2gGst98, Feb 22, 2018

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  1. 2gGst98

    2gGst98 Proven Member

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    So I am about to purchase a welder for some exhaust needs and some body work needs. trying to see if this 120v mig will do or if I should double up and get the 120v/240v tig.

    the mig I'm looking at.
    https://www.farmandfleet.com/produc...MI8a3yrOG52QIVjrrACh095gMXEAQYASABEgJds_D_BwE -

    the style tig im looking at
    https://www.eastwood.com/tig200acdc.html
    I'm not necessarily going with eastwood just the basic style/ratings and this is easy to compare with.

    I have not welded too much, I braze all the time (HVAC) so tig I'm kind of good at just fooling around with my buddies. I used a mig back when I was 16-18 at step dads shop putting in floor pans/ trunk pans, haven't since. I just don't know if a 120v welder will do everything I need. I have read from number of places it will do just fine, but at the same time other (pro) welders say it wont be. Not sure. any input would be nice.
     

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  2. 99gst_racer

    99gst_racer Moderator

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    If you're set on buying the MIG from Farm and Fleet, spring the extra $50 on this one: https://www.farmandfleet.com/products/939855-hobart-handler-130-wire-feed-mig-welder.html

    Hobart makes a decent MIG welder for the hobbyist and this one has better heat control compared to that Lincoln. IMO, 120v is enough for most anything automotive related.

    Flux core wire sucks. I'd definitely recommend running it with gas. So be prepared to buy a cylinder and a regulator.
     

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  3. 95REGF150

    95REGF150 Proven Member

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  4. 2gGst98

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    Thanks guys, yea I was for sure going with gas MIG if so. I thought the MIG I put up accepted gas or flux, but thanks on that.
     

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  5. 2gGst98

    2gGst98 Proven Member

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    If down the road I want to put in a roll cage on the laser I am about to buy would a MIG stand up for that?
     

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  6. Bleakley

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    Yes and no.
    Can MIG do it - yes. OF COURSE. In fact, that's almost exclusively what they used for a while, right?

    However, I think most rulebooks specifically call for GTAW (TIG).
     

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  7. 99gst_racer

    99gst_racer Moderator

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    MIG is ok for a mild steel cage. If 4130 moly, you'll need to TIG it in.
     

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  8. 2gGst98

    2gGst98 Proven Member

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    got ya thanks guys. I have just been reading a lot on them. Now I just have to decide how much to spend vs how much I'll actually use it. Thanks again. Ill continue to check so if any other recommendations ill always take. I like the hobart MIG.
     

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  9. Bleakley

    Bleakley Proven Member

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  10. EVLGSX

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    120v is all you will likely ever need for what you have described you plan to do...........A MIG unit that Ive grown to like and think is a fantastic bang for your buck is the "Firepower FP 120". I recently picked up an "FP 135" as well which was a local deal I couldnt pass on.

    I have mine set up on a proper cart with an Argon/CO2 mix.

    Ive been doing autobody for years with it, it can also handle anything automotive related really (with the exception of aluminum obviously) and the quality is really good on the machine itself. For the price, they are tough to beat. They where made by Thermadyne and are now discontinued I beleive, but still pop up from time to time and are almost always available on Ebay. If its not a Miller Im buying, its one of these Firepower/Themodyne units all day. I wouldnt go with the Lincoln unit in that class/price range when you could have one of these. It welds just as good as any high end miller Ive ever used. Is it a machine to brag about and try and make people think your cool for having??........absolutly not. But if you know what your doing, you dont need that right?


    Good luck with your purchase and have fun with it!!
     

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  11. brian9397gsx

    brian9397gsx Proven Member

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    I have a Hobart 140 that I've had for years and haven't had any problems with. I have an alpha 200 tig also that for the money is an awesome machine. 680 shipped can't beat it. I never really tigged until I got it and now it's my go to welder
     
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  12. b00stedtalon2

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    My AHP 220X has treated me well. I purchased it in 2015 and i've had no problems with it. I would recommend you upgrade the pedal and torch though.
     

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  13. renovatdkitchen

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    I've got the ahp alphatig as well, and @b00stedtalon2 I think now they are both upgraded as I remember seeing a video by weld.com on YouTube regarding an upgrade kit but the new one is flexible across two axis by 30*.
     

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  14. SasaniFab

    SasaniFab Previously amsrn13

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    Dont waste your money on that crap... for the money get yourself a hobart handler 140. Im not a fan of those big box store lincoln mig welders. They are not the same as the lincoln pro mig. As far as the tig im pretty confident they are all coming out of the same factory in china. That is.. the longevity, eastwood etc etc..... If your looking at something cheap that has a decent warranty you might want to consider the harbor frieght protig. It has really good features considering the price....
     

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  15. Archer Fabrications

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    I run a miller dynasty 210DX, everlast has some really good value for their price, I’ll probably be getting an everlast as a second machine
     

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  16. jinscho

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    does anyone have any input on this machine?

    https://www.harborfreight.com/weldi...ssional-welder-with-120-volt-input-64804.html

    I know very little about welding, but want an affordable machine that I can learn on and for a HF machine it has decent reviews both online and on site. I've done a few ugly welds with my neighbors 120v flux core welder.. and know that I don't want to go THAT cheap.. but having the option to use flux in a pinch is important to me.
     

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  17. SasaniFab

    SasaniFab Previously amsrn13

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    They are solid little welders. Harbor Freight has come a long way.
     

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