97 ecu...

[KT_McHan]

Ok..I've searched and got a bunch of information already, but maybe I'm missing somthing.
I have a 95 gst with a non eprom ecu...from what I've read it seems evoscan is a hit or miss with that ecu.
I also have 3 97 talon awd ecu's in my possession. The ones with the black plastic case. Now if what I've read is correct these are the ecu's that are flashable with the ceddy mod correct? I can stop by the shop and get the numbers off of em if it helps.
Also to run these ecus in the 95 with the CAS different between the models all I have to do is switch the plug wires??
Seems all the searches I did came up with 95 into latter models...so I would do the same correct?
Just tryin to make sure I'm right. ..or wrong..
Thx for any help

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[97fwdtsitalon]

Yes, the black cased 97+ ecus are flashable. You will have to switch your plug wires around to use it.

 

[silentscreamer]

The only way i could get my 96 to use the black cased 98 ecu was to run a green top cas and the conversion harness, since i have done that i have had no problems at all. if i didnt use the green top it had the miss fires at 3000 rpm they car shook like hell even free reving(i had the injector wires swapped and i had tried the plug wires swapped nothing worked).

 

[KT_McHan]

Just out of curiosity.....if I was to swap the 97 head on....with the 97 cas and use the adapter harness....that would work to? Just wondering

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[antilag]

Just out of curiosity.....if I was to swap the 97 head on....with the 97 cas and use the adapter harness....that would work to? Just wondering

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Yes, or you could just run a 1g cas on your existing setup and only hookup the one actual cam sensor wire

 

[silentscreamer]

You can run a 97 CAS but from what i understand the 97s have a treaded insert in the intake cam the the cas bolts to, or something along those lines, a 1g gas fits by just popping out the plug on the intake cam gear (passenger side) and putting a new oring seal on the 1g CAS. or you can take the 97 intake cam and put it in th 96 head if you would save a few $$ instead of a new HG and bolts.

 

[m_0ney_pit]

really so 97s came with a black case ecu? I thought only the 98-99 ecus were flashable...whats the part number

 

[agarc023]

really so 97s came with a black case ecu? I thought only the 98-99 ecus were flashable...whats the part number

I think it is only 98-99. My 97 spyder came with the metal cased one

 

[KT_McHan]

Maybe its not original 97....but there's one in the car(97 talon) and two in trunk....maybe the original owner was a horder
wish he would have horded some eproms: )

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[2gawdtsi]

Its only 98-99,

there are some flashable ecus with 97 build dates, but they are on 98 cars.

 

[silentscreamer]

Chances are its just the build date was late 97, i got it off ebay and the pictures had the part numbers for a 98 fwd but the auction listing was under 97 ecu. i made sure that the numbers on the case were correct and the pictures were the actual one i was bidding on before i bid on it. i will edit my previous post to avoid confusion, i usually try to say 98 ecu is what i run to avoid any problems like this, sorry guys

 

[the_mork]

Just for complete clarification 97 ecus are the bastard ecus of 2gs with attributes of bother their younger and older brothers.

95/96 ecus are identical AFAIK in their stock function with the only difference being that 95 ecus have a removable eprom chip. In this case without modification they are capable of MUT communication only over obd2 which is very slow, and use the inverted CAS signal.

97 ecus as mentioned are bastards, without any flashing functionality they are very similar to their younger 98/99 brothers being capable of MUTIII communication without carrying it over obd2 so that they have the fast logging and use a non-inverted CAS signal.

98/99 ecus are the only ecus that remain relatively unchanged over more than one year (in 2gs), easily identified by being black cased they are flashable with an openport 2.0 cable, are capable of fast MUTIII logging, and use an un-inverted CAS signal.

Further ecus from other cars should be easily useable (even more easily than from evos). Likely most 4cylinder Mitsubishi or Chrysler (with Mitsubishi engines) cars from 1998-2001 should have not only workeable ecus but actually identical (hardwarewise) computers that can be flashed with DSM roms. I'm surprised at this point that more exploration on this topic has not been publicly pursued.

 

[2gawdtsi]

Does this mean i can steal the ecu out of my 99rs and put it in my talon?

instead of having to buy a 200$ ecu out of a 98/99 gst/gsx?
how difficult would it be to flash a turbo ROM on it?

 

[mike96]

Just for complete clarification 97 ecus are the bastard ecus of 2gs with attributes of bother their younger and older brothers.

95/96 ecus are identical AFAIK in their stock function with the only difference being that 95 ecus have a removable eprom chip. In this case without modification they are capable of MUT communication only over obd2 which is very slow, and use the inverted CAS signal.

97 ecus as mentioned are bastards, without any flashing functionality they are very similar to their younger 98/99 brothers being capable of MUTIII communication without carrying it over obd2 so that they have the fast logging and use a non-inverted CAS signal.

98/99 ecus are the only ecus that remain relatively unchanged over more than one year (in 2gs), easily identified by being black cased they are flashable with an openport 2.0 cable, are capable of fast MUTIII logging, and use an un-inverted CAS signal.

Further ecus from other cars should be easily useable (even more easily than from evos). Likely most 4cylinder Mitsubishi or Chrysler (with Mitsubishi engines) cars from 1998-2001 should have not only workeable ecus but actually identical (hardwarewise) computers that can be flashed with DSM roms. I'm surprised at this point that more exploration on this topic has not been publicly pursued.

probably only because the flashable ECU thing is still relitivly new and that they arnt as hard to come by yet as the eprom ecu's...

Does this mean i can steal the ecu out of my 99rs and put it in my talon?

instead of having to buy a 200$ ecu out of a 98/99 gst/gsx?
how difficult would it be to flash a turbo ROM on it?

pull it out and take a picture of it/get us the part number off it.

 

[the_mork]

Does this mean i can steal the ecu out of my 99rs and put it in my talon?

instead of having to buy a 200$ ecu out of a 98/99 gst/gsx?
how difficult would it be to flash a turbo ROM on it?

No, it has a Chrysler engine and Chrysler ecu. Not at all compatible and I have no idea if it is flashable, if it is then it wont be by the OP 2.0 cable.

 

[KT_McHan]

Ok...so 98/99 black plastic case ecu, openport cable, ceddy mod d/l and evoscan to log and good to go right?

I know someone will say "search" but I'm using tapatalk on phone and searching through browser on here is PITA...

do any of u have a link to the cable? What am I lookin at cost wise?

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[mike96]

Ok...so 98/99 black plastic case ecu, openport cable, ceddy mod d/l and evoscan to log and good to go right?

I know someone will say "search" but I'm using tapatalk on phone and searching through browser on here is PITA...

do any of u have a link to the cable? What am I lookin at cost wise?

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yep that is about it, here is the adapter, you need to get the mitsubishi flash connector along with it or make your own for it to work. and ecu flash you can download from the same site.

Tactrix Openport 2.0