91 talon tsi, NO start. help!

[NewToBoost]

OK, guys i've my talon for about 3-4 days and i aready have a problem 2.0L tsi fwd 5 speed, The car wont start, but if it's push started it runs and drive's normal. checked out the starter, noticed the bolts that hold on the motor to the starter housing were loose, tighted them up, took to autozone, starter passe'd the test. reinstalled and still nothing. possibly the NSS? if i unplug the switch would it be like,bypassing the switch? i still suspect the starter being bad, but i would like to find a way to test the NSS without removing it is there a way to bypass this to see if mabey its the switch??


anyone else have suggestions on what it would be.

when i turn the key on, it clicks, i can hear the necessary replays clicking on/off so i'm guessing it's not those...

please any help if appricated!!!!!


-Andrew

 

[ilco187]

nss are you saying neutral safety switch, manuals dont have them so i know of, umm what about the clutch switch, under the dash, unplug it then start it, let us know the results.

 

[NewToBoost]

Yes what i was trying to mean was the clutch switch? i unplugged it and tryed and still got the same thing

 

[ilco187]

does the starter even click, im thinking it could be the wiring to the starter or even the starter relay.

 

[NewToBoost]

when key's in in start position you can hear the starter relays click on/off, i looked for a fuse but could'nt find anything, either way if the fuse was bad would the replay still click?

i'm stumped on what this would be.

 

[ilco187]

from what i read here--> http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-miscellaneous/217951-how-diagnose-no-start.html there is no fuse so i presume since it dont say anything about it, i found this in one of the paragraphs - located under the dash, to the immediate left of the steering column. There are three relays down there – the starter relay is the one in the middle.

 

[NewToBoost]

ill check it out tommorow,but i can hear the replay clicking on/off

is there anything else that i'm over looking that could be causeing a no start?

 

[ilco187]

this was in another paragraph - When you turn the key, do you hear the starter click? If not, time to check it.( which you did ) Check the starter relay first.

i say check all grounds to the starter and make sure they are nice and tight, if thats all good and still same result, check the starter relay/ you did pull the white plug connector closest to the firewall for the clutch switch, ive see some pull the cruise plug, just checking.

 

[oVaBoost]

Check the grounds thats what happend to me a ground wasnt hooked up.

 

[93ETGOCART]

check your starter yourself its not hard. hook up the power wire. and ground it to something using the bolts that attatches it to the bellhousing ran it to the battery. then get a small piece of wire coming from the battery and touch it to the little connector on the starter it should push out and crank over if not its bad. mine has become stuck before so i took it out and this unstuck( for lack of a better word) it.

 

[subie22]

take the starter out, make sure the + stud doesnt have play in it, mine did, when i went to start it, it must of not got a good connection. It even tested out great. Just something to look into.

 

[93ETGOCART]

another note dont trust autozones tester i took them an alternator one day and they said it was good then took it back the next day and it was bad i think it just says what they want it to say i hate autozone.

 

[NewToBoost]

problem resolved, turned out i unpluged the cruise control switch on the clutch took a double look under the pedal and saw the on closest to the friewall, unplugged it and wala
starts like a gem.

thanks guy for all your input!