60-1 owners- what mods, boost, gas, and times please..

[sweet97]

Come on guys there is a differenc in the wheels and Iwouldlike to learn how totellthe GT-13 has the 60-1. Where can I see that info/ Could not findit on SBR's site. mark

 

[CanadianTSi]

Taken straight from SBR's site,

"Meet the GT13, this turbo is happy under the hood of a properly supported and modified DSM. Utilizing a GT compressor wheel capable of 60 lbs. per minute in air flow, this turbo has gone down into the 10 second range now on more than one car. The turbine wheel needed to support to 550 horsepower is fairly large and therefore, spool can be considered moderate for a turbo of this size. This turbo uses our 38mm internal gate and also utilizes Slowboy Racings purpose cast GT turbine housing to get the most of the GT13 CHRA.

Compressor side:
• 60 "trim" comp wheel
• 2.32" inducer
• 3.00" exducer


Turbine side:
• 2.16" exducer
• 2.36" major"

 

[anconover]

to an earlier post, 450whp is very feasable on a 6-bolt with big rods. And ive seen people make 500whp on stock 6-bolt motors and still drive them often. Ive seen 7-bolts make over 400whp on a good amount of cars as well.

 

[paul s]

The GT13 is 60-1 wheel, call SBR and ask..

 

[sweet97]

Nate said he uses a 60-1 soI would guess it is the BB model.I could not find any info on any of the BB/GT turbo's on site. Thanks Paul, just want to have my infocorrect! Mark

 

[sweet97]

Taken straight from SBR's site,

"Meet the GT13, this turbo is happy under the hood of a properly supported and modified DSM. Utilizing a GT compressor wheel capable of 60 lbs. per minute in air flow, this turbo has gone down into the 10 second range now on more than one car. The turbine wheel needed to support to 550 horsepower is fairly large and therefore, spool can be considered moderate for a turbo of this size. This turbo uses our 38mm internal gate and also utilizes Slowboy Racings purpose cast GT turbine housing to get the most of the GT13 CHRA.

Compressor side:
• 60 "trim" comp wheel
• 2.32" inducer
• 3.00" exducer


Turbine side:
• 2.16" exducer
• 2.36" major"

I'm just trying to learn and learn accurate info. Both the 60 and 60-1 I thought have the same size wheels. The 60 has 6 curved blades on the comp wheel while the 60-1 has 7 straight blades. mark

 

[biglady112]

Just wanted to let you know. There wa a gentleman with a DSMlink powered GST. With a 2G intake manifold, stock 2G head, 272's, BONE STOCK 7 bolt, straight T4 turbo @ 36psi.

The said car above made 560whp. The car ran a best of 11.0@13?. His motor let go. But it wasn't his fault. He didn't zip tie or check his vacuum lines. They all blew off half way down the track and leaned the motor out.

So stock 7 bolts can put the power down. There is a few local guys here pushing well over 400AWHP. They race their cars weekly. And there is quite a few who have built 7 bolts with no issues. I owned a 1G but will be buying a 2G very soon. Just to be another to prove people wrong. 1G is sold.

Stock transmission and stock motor can handle what ever you throw at them. If you can't drive or tune the they can't handle the power. But it is all in the owner/driver/tuner.

Steve

 

[Turbo Monk3y]

Uhh i agree with some of what your saying but the Stock tranny is a Pos.. A stock Awd tranny with 400+whp will either break your 2 spider differential or some other problem will arrise very soon... trust me i know... As for a 4g63 handling that horsepower is fine as long as you know you have low to 0 knock and a great A/F ratio tune then you'll be fine.. these motors are stout and will take the abuse but you have to know the kind of abuse your tuning is giving your motor...

 

[XtReMeToYz]

Uhh i agree with some of what your saying but the Stock tranny is a Pos.. A stock Awd tranny with 400+whp will either break your 2 spider differential or some other problem will arrise very soon... trust me i know... As for a 4g63 handling that horsepower is fine as long as you know you have low to 0 knock and a great A/F ratio tune then you'll be fine.. these motors are stout and will take the abuse but you have to know the kind of abuse your tuning is giving your motor...

If you launch your car like a tool, of course its going to break. Its not just no knock and a good a/f ratio that makes a motor last. Im beginning to seriously believe the majority of people out there running safc's making 'power' and blowing their engines is because of timing. Higher timing = higher pressure inside the cylinders. Of course something is gonna give over time, but 400whp with 16* timing advance is far safer IMHO than 400whp with 25* of timing.

 

[definitiveno]

7 bolt haters


http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135728&highlight=gt3561

 

[sweet97]

Well I just installed one of those Formula fabrication headers from Logic Performance. Not expecting any HP but am hoping for some low end torque and quicker spool. Too tired to finish today but will have it running tomorrow.
It's a DNP copy, not as well constructed of course. I tried to find some info but there was none. Just a lame report from a guy who must be a friend of the Logic owners. I guess I will be the one with a more definitive report, still with the butt-o-meter however the spooling should be accurate. Mark

 

[szewczyd]

Ive decided to order the race head later and build up my 7 bolt first... Could I still see over 500 hp with the stock head? Its basically stock with 272/272 cams. Thanks guys.

I would highly recommend building a six bolt motor and doing the swap over building your 7 bolt, But that is just my opinion.

 

[Turbo Monk3y]

If you launch your car like a tool, of course its going to break. Its not just no knock and a good a/f ratio that makes a motor last. Im beginning to seriously believe the majority of people out there running safc's making 'power' and blowing their engines is because of timing. Higher timing = higher pressure inside the cylinders. Of course something is gonna give over time, but 400whp with 16* timing advance is far safer IMHO than 400whp with 25* of timing.

I totally agree with your tuning as i too run really high boost with low timing in the 14s to 15s... As for lauching like a tool That my friend is what i do best!!!!! The faces i see when i come out of the hole sideways come at a price and that price was 2000+ for my shep spec tranny but in the end its well worth it