60-1 owners- what mods, boost, gas, and times please..

[highintenzity4]

I recently purchased the 60-1 turbo and want to know some recommendations... Im leaving the stock block and Im getting an upgraded head, what boost would you guys recommend? For tuning I have the dsmlink and I have 850cc injectors. Thank you. t

 

[liquordrunk]

how about leaveit at 10 and then start form there since it seems like you may need a little bit more that jsut inj and dsmlink for supporting mods for this turbo

 

[sweet97]

I've got a 3"turbo back exhaust, MAFT,keydiver, cold airintake, Spearco FMIC, wideband and a scanmaster. i run 20 psi on pump no knock. Mark

 

[Eclipsei95cl]

I have pretty much the same setup. 850s and dsmlink and stock 7bolt I run about 18psi daily dont wanna push that motor too much. I dont recommend this turbo if you dont have a built motor or the supporting mods to handle this thing. That is why i am downgrading my turbo this summer. Its kinda overkill for me and not as fun on the street anymore

 

[highintenzity4]

those arent all my mods.... here are my major mods: hks 272/272 cams, magnus sheetmetal intake manifold, dsmlink, 850cc injectors, aeromotive fpr, coil on plug ignition, sbr race head (ordering very soon), turboback exhaust, mbc, adfx fmic. I was thinking about running about 27 psi, what do you guys think?

 

[liquordrunk]

how about spend the money on doing a 6bolt swap,, 27 psi on a 7bolt CRANK WALK can you say for a 7bolt at 27spi. think about it man......... Jim mckeone runs 11.5 in the 1.4 and thats is on an awd with a 7bolt if he had a 6bolt i bet he could get a little lower like LOW 11's maybe high 10's i think he could since he hs done so good on a 7 bolt but he WAS NOT running 27psi ..... he is runnning an FPGREEN(50trim) stiock motor and his intake

 

[BrokenTsi]

so..........are you saying that 6 bolts are faster than 7 bolts or something? I dont think that running a 6 bolt will miraculously run 10sec quarter miles.

 

[highintenzity4]

Now what i want to know is how much psi can my stock block handle? Should I invest in a short block other than a race head 1st?

 

[sweet97]

Well Like I said Irun 20-21 PSI on pump. I would not go higher on a stock block. Nate at SBR said I could run race and 25-26 PSI and put own 450HP. Probably for about 5 seconds and then the motor would grenade!! Rods can't take that much HP safely, not 7 bolt rods. The big 6 bolt rod could probably sneak by a couple of passes. I bought a running '91 with the 6 bolt which I have disassembled for a rebuild when I find someone who is capable to do the job locally. I have also considered adding a good head, arp studs and cams/springs to my block and seeing what that would bring. Mark

 

[CanadianTSi]

how about spend the money on doing a 6bolt swap,, 27 psi on a 7bolt CRANK WALK can you say for a 7bolt at 27spi. think about it man......... Jim mckeone runs 11.5 in the 1.4 and thats is on an awd with a 7bolt if he had a 6bolt i bet he could get a little lower like LOW 11's maybe high 10's i think he could since he hs done so good on a 7 bolt but he WAS NOT running 27psi ..... he is runnning an FPGREEN(50trim) stiock motor and his intake

HAHAH Are you serious???

 

[Eclipsei95cl]

those arent all my mods.... here are my major mods: hks 272/272 cams, magnus sheetmetal intake manifold, dsmlink, 850cc injectors, aeromotive fpr, coil on plug ignition, sbr race head (ordering very soon), turboback exhaust, mbc, adfx fmic. I was thinking about running about 27 psi, what do you guys think?

If you have a stock bottom end and stock trans dont even think about it.

 

[psychlow]

I was thinking about running about 27 psi, what do you guys think?

Don't worry! You'll always have DSMTuners' hangout as a support group when your engine shreds itself and throws chunks into the turbine wheel of your expensive turbo.

All sarcasm aside, if you're going to spend that much money on mods, you may as well invest in the insurance of building the block. A 6-bolt swap with forged components would be the best way to go, otherwise if your endplay is in spec, you could build the 7-bolt.

Your engine MIGHT last on 27PSI with just some ARP headstuds... but if you don't have the money/time to build the block now, are you going to have the money and time to replace the entire engine AND your turbo if your engine bites it?

 

[killab443]

6 bolts can handle more power but the 7 bolt has the advantage of the higher compression pistons. 6 bolt can get you into 10s yea , but I wouldnt expect it to last long considering its the stock bllockk and head with miles on it. isnt it upward of 600hp to get you into 10s? 6 bolt is rated to likr 400-500- when there built with the factory parts (2g pistons 1g rods MLS headgasket, ect). Like I said unbuilt I dont think it would pull 10s all day long. Stock headbolts will stretch on the COMPOSIT gasket. You'll push coolant and it will come to a screaching hault. Thats just one of the ways it can go out.

 

[paul s]

I'm running a built 7 bolt on my talon for the past 2 years and it runs awsome..just got the gt13(60-1) and it performs as it should..

 

[91gvr4]

how about spend the money on doing a 6bolt swap,, 27 psi on a 7bolt CRANK WALK can you say for a 7bolt at 27spi. think about it man......... Jim mckeone runs 11.5 in the 1.4 and thats is on an awd with a 7bolt if he had a 6bolt i bet he could get a little lower like LOW 11's maybe high 10's i think he could since he hs done so good on a 7 bolt but he WAS NOT running 27psi ..... he is runnning an FPGREEN(50trim) stiock motor and his intake

Omg, he ran a 11.5 with a seven bolt, is that a record. If it was the same mods on a 6 bolt, he would be looking at high 8's. Sell your 7 bolt and run 8's in a 6 bolt.


Seriously, Horsepower isnt the reason seven bolts Crankwalk. Infact, 7 Bolts are very capable of making high horsepower too.

 

[highintenzity4]

Ive decided to order the race head later and build up my 7 bolt first... Could I still see over 500 hp with the stock head? Its basically stock with 272/272 cams. Thanks guys.

 

[sweet97]

I'm running a built 7 bolt on my talon for the past 2 years and it runs awsome..just got the gt13(60-1) and it performs as it should..

I did not think the GT-13 was a 60-1 but rather a 60trim. Iwillhave tolook again.nice time,11's-COOL! Mark

 

[sweet97]

I think a stock 6 bolt kead would do 500HP but not a stock 7 bolt. hey what's the big deal. If you are doing 450HPisn't that good enough? Heck I would take 350HP.
I believe cams are holding me back. Even with the stock block I believe I could do 375AWHP with cams. ADVICE PLEASE:
turbo: 60-1
INJ's: 650's(75%duty at 20psi)
Intake: 3" Cold Air
FMIC: Sprarco 2-221(short route IC to TB)
Exhaust: 3" no cat
EVO3 exhaust manny and 02housing/ported-header available
Walbro255/AFPR
ECU: EPROM/keydiver stage 3
Tranny: TREspec
Stock motor('93) I do have a running 6 bolt, now disassembled for rebuild but need to find someone capable near Syracuse, NY. Prices are insane.

 

[Da Dymer]

running 27psi on a stock bottom end 7bolt with a 60-1 is just asking for it
However a well built 7-bolt with proper care (oil squirters, MBCAD kit), can handle big numbers. Ive been running mine at 30 psi with my garret for a while, and haven't had a problem yet. GT 35R 1.06a/r 552awhp

 

[91gvr4]

running 27psi on a stock bottom end 7bolt with a 60-1 is just asking for it
However a well built 7-bolt with proper care (oil squirters, MBCAD kit), can handle big numbers. Ive been running mine at 30 psi with my garret for a while, and haven't had a problem yet. GT 35R 1.06a/r 552awhp

"You are going to Crankwalk, you have a 7 bolt making more then the orginal 157whp" Says most I believe everything i read members.


Good Numbers, i thought you car was blown up or something though?


And Sweet97 the Gt-13 is a dual ball bearing 60-1. But for the money i will stick with my Rs60t.

 

[Turbo Monk3y]

the 60-1 is not a street friendly turbo... A 50trim or a 60 trim up to 24psi will pwn it... After 24-26psi the 60-1 takes over and blows away the 50 and 60 trims... I have a Stock 6 bolt longblock. And i have been pushing anywhere from 25 to 32PSI. I am currently running 22-24psi on pump and 25-32psi on Vp 110, C12, or C16... I just tune for 0 knock and the car pulls damn hard up top... I do have Fp2 cams coming and i know once those go in the Car will really wake up...

 

[sweet97]

I did some homework and the 60-1 flows more air at a lower boost than a 60 trim so that sounds more street friendly to me. That is according to bullseye Power.mark

 

[Da Dymer]

"You are going to Crankwalk, you have a 7 bolt making more then the orginal 157whp" Says most I believe everything i read members.


Good Numbers, i thought you car was blown up or something though?


And Sweet97 the Gt-13 is a dual ball bearing 60-1. But for the money i will stick with my Rs60t.

Yeh it was from a broken timing belt, not crankwalk.....its in the shop now gettin a new head and set of pistons.....but a broken timing belt could have happened just as easily on a 6bolt.

 

[91gvr4]

Ya i know, I am not saying anything bad about 7 bolts at all. I am just stating that everyone worries to much about crankwalk.

 

[CanadianTSi]

I'm running a built 7 bolt on my talon for the past 2 years and it runs awsome..just got the gt13(60-1) and it performs as it should..

Come on Paul... it's a 60 trim not a 60-1