Resolved 2G - Timing belt wont fit

[91TSi FWD]

Alright, need some help with this one. I've done a few timing belts in the past (15+ years ago). I bought a 2g with a broken timing belt and have been rebuilding it. I'm now at the point where I'm putting the timing belt back on and I can't make it fit for the life of me, seems like it has a ways to go.

I have an old OEM belt as well as the new Gates belt I'm trying here and they fit the same. Can anyone see anything I've done wrong?

Thanks in advance.

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[Dericsh]

Make sure there’s no mix-matched parts (6/7 bolt) I’m not the guy for that, but for the sake of getting you a quick answer-

In the write ups that I’ve studied, (1G stuff tho) you want the dots in the tensioner pulley to be around the 1 o’clock position where yours are 4-5 o’clock. So, you’ll want to loosen that bolt, rotate the pulley clockwise, fit the belt, then add the tension clockwise.

**2G’s tension the opposite way, 5-6 o’clock when tensioned**

 

[91TSi FWD]

Yup, that was it. Tensioner pully was still tight on the arm when I put it on. Thanks for the help!

 

[pauleyman]

Make sure there’s no mix-matched parts (6/7 bolt) I’m not the guy for that, but for the sake of getting you a quick answer-

In the write ups that I’ve studied, (1G stuff tho) you want the dots in the tensioner pulley to be around the 1 o’clock position where yours are 4-5 o’clock. So, you’ll want to loosen that bolt, rotate the pulley clockwise, fit the belt, then add the tension clockwise.

not true on 2g. Tension is counterclockwise and right now OP has the pulley tensioned.
OP loosen the bolt on the tensioner pulley. The dots will face 9 oclock or so with it loose and somewhere between 5 and 6 with it tensioned.

 

[Dericsh]

not true on 2g. Tension is counterclockwise and right now OP has the pulley tensioned.
OP loosen the bolt on the tensioner pulley. The dots will face 9 oclock or so with it loose and somewhere between 5 and 6 with it tensioned.

Thanks Paul, I updated my post with an edit. Make sure you note my mistake @91TSi FWD

 

[Justin DuBois]

Make sure there’s no mix-matched parts (6/7 bolt) I’m not the guy for that, but for the sake of getting you a quick answer-

In the write ups that I’ve studied, (1G stuff tho) you want the dots in the tensioner pulley to be around the 1 o’clock position where yours are 4-5 o’clock. So, you’ll want to loosen that bolt, rotate the pulley clockwise, fit the belt, then add the tension clockwise.

The OP has a 7 bolt 2G front case - cause there is the crank sensor! - Also - the 2G motor mount is unmodified to accommodate the 1G water pump, cause it's a 2G water pump. Also the timing belt tension-er - is bolted on diagonal left and right bolt holes - 2G

 

[Dericsh]

The OP has a 7 bolt 2G front case - cause there is the crank sensor! - Also - the 2G motor mount is unmodified to accommodate the 1G water pump, cause it's a 2G water pump. Also the timing belt tension-er - is bolted on diagonal left and right bolt holes - 2G

Right on, I’ve never worked on a 2G at all, but I did notice the way the tensioner was bolted up. Thanks for pointing out the other clues as well.

 

[pauleyman]

The OP has a 7 bolt 2G front case - cause there is the crank sensor! - Also - the 2G motor mount is unmodified to accommodate the 1G water pump, cause it's a 2G water pump. Also the timing belt tension-er - is bolted on diagonal left and right bolt holes - 2G

1g 7 bolt also bolts up diagonal also but it's not the same as OP.

If memory serves there are 4 different tensioiners. 1g 6 bolt. 1g 7 bolt, early 2g and late 2g OP is a late 2g and it's a big tensioner and it has a big grenade pin compared too all the others. You would have to look at CAPS to find where the split is. On a 1g it is definately 6 vs 7 bolt. 2g I'm not sure. I don't think it's 2ga vs 2gb. I don't remember and I don't have a working copy of ASA

 

[99dsmer4g63]

On a 2g it’s early 95 and late 95 production that causes the difference in timing tensioner I believe. You can use the late tensioner on the early 2g blocks that came with the early tensioner and it makes no ill effects though.

-Daniel

 

[91TSi FWD]

really appreciate the replies. Engine is going in today...finally. life is too busy sometimes. Lol