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Resolved 2G Car died and will not restart

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Bigbeanbird

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Jan 5, 2020
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I’m an old fart and don’t have too many driving days left, so I just want a fast little car to run around in that don’t run me 40,000 bucks and working on cars keeps me young. That being said, this car is pissin me off!

Changed timing belt and had tensioner and pulley combination wrong, fixed that and the new belt went on like butter. Timing marks were spot on, grenade pin pulled many times, blah blah blah. Now, I start it up, and it sounded like a dream, reved up to about 2 grand, drops back down to around 500 and levels out at 900. Bitchin, I shut it off.

After a grilled ham and cheese sandwich I go back to the car with laptop in hand, connected to DSMLink, started a data capture and started car. It fired right up, stumbled for a few seconds, then settled down to a decent idle. Then I jumped out and was going to look at things, and it died as I shut the door. I mean no stumble, no smoke or leaks, just dead and the capture stopped as well. Ok cool, tried to restart and all it did was crank. Tried 6 or 7 times to no avail.

I sat for a moment with steam starting to stream from my ears in anger and thought, ”take it easy fella, your gonna blow a gasket“, turned the key on and noticed no fuel pump buzz. What the ? A quick look around at fuses, connections, wiring and such told me nothing. Packed it in for the day, will post the only capture I got morrow from the laptop.

Any quick thoughts for the mornings adventure?
 
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First question is always, does the CEL turn on for 5 seconds and then turn off when you turn the ignition on? The fact that the engine shut down and your DSMLink stopped would suggest that the ECU stopped running for some reason. As you may have noticed you can capture data when the engine is not running as long as the ECU is turned on.
 
Is the fuel system stock or has the pump been upgraded? If stock, it's possible the pump just gave up the ghost. Depending on how long the car sat the pump may have ingested sludge or the sock may have gotten plugged. If its been upgraded, perhaps there is a problem with the wiring.

Depending on where the CEL sends you, I would check for voltage at the pump. If you have voltage at the pump - bad pump (or bad ground...which I doubt since it ran). If there's no voltage at the pump, check the wiring connections (if they've been cut into) and/or the fuel pump relay - begin chasing the electricity back. This thread might help if you go the "test the fuel pump" route:

Thread 'Cranks but wont start, testing fuel pump' https://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/cranks-but-wont-start-testing-fuel-pump.521766/
 
First question is always, does the CEL turn on for 5 seconds and then turn off when you turn the ignition on? The fact that the engine shut down and your DSMLink stopped would suggest that the ECU stopped running for some reason. As you may have noticed you can capture data when the engine is not running as long as the ECU is turned on.
Thank you Steve, that’s exactly what happened.. come to find out the 20 amp engine fuse had blown.. all I did was a visual check last night but this morning I had meter in hand. The fuse had popped, not the element but way down at the bottom so no continuity, new fuse and it fired right up.. was kinda weird to see a fuse do that.. a first for me.. thanks again, always look forward to your replies..!!

Is the fuel system stock or has the pump been upgraded? If stock, it's possible the pump just gave up the ghost. Depending on how long the car sat the pump may have ingested sludge or the sock may have gotten plugged. If its been upgraded, perhaps there is a problem with the wiring.

Depending on where the CEL sends you, I would check for voltage at the pump. If you have voltage at the pump - bad pump (or bad ground...which I doubt since it ran). If there's no voltage at the pump, check the wiring connections (if they've been cut into) and/or the fuel pump relay - begin chasing the electricity back. This thread might help if you go the "test the fuel pump" route:

Thread 'Cranks but wont start, testing fuel pump' https://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/cranks-but-wont-start-testing-fuel-pump.521766/
Thank you sir, very informative.. just did a visual check last night but brought out the meter this morn and found the 20 amp engine fuse had blown.. it burned way down at the bottom so the element was intact.. new fuse and she started right up.. had the throttle body off and put in new gaskets doing a boost leak test, me think it needs some idle adjustments.. thanks for reply, makes me smile when I get up and see a message for me, the simple things..
 
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