1JZ in 2g AWD?

[95biotch]

Hey guys, im sure its been asked before but is it possible and what all needs to be done to swap the 3rd gen. supra single turbo straight six into a a 2g awd. My 95 talon preferably. Thanks for any info. gave, even if youre making fun of me.

 

[GPTourer]

Why don't you take a few simple measurements and answer this question for yourself?

 

[95biotch]

Thats a thought, but i was thnking more along the lines of has anyone done this before? I dont really kjnow how AWD works but based on what i think, putting in a totally different engine, like the 1JZ would also require the transmission from a supra. Correct? Then what about the driveshafts and stuff? Of course keeping the car AWD is a must. if anyone knows anything about what would be nesecary not only to put in the engine but also to make it work please post some info. Thanks

 

[orangedsm]

You would VERY easily spend $10,000 in parts and custom labor/fabrication. I don't understand why you would want to do it anyways. Put the $10k into your car as is and eat Supras for lunch (as long as you stay off the freeway).

 

[phatTSi]

How do you plan on keeping the awd system when running a rwd transmission?

 

[DevilSperm]

^^ exactly...no way is that motor gonna fit in sideways, its too long, youd have to put it in like its made and run RWD.....if you want AWD drive just mod your 4g63

 

[Mirage2LTurbo]

Bring me a 20k down deposit, a 2JZ motor/tranny, and a donor Talon. I'll do it.

 

[DSMSpyder99]

i dont think a DSM has a long enough engine bay to fit it. THis is a stupid swap just buy a 3rd gen supra

 

[SpYYder]

Oh, it will fit... it will enter the passenger compartment, like a chevy astro van. The complications would be endless, from engine heat, to turbo/intercooler piping routes, to hood clearance, transmission tunnel modification, shifter placement, driveshaft routing, finding a rear end, custom axles, custom hubs in the rear, subframe bracing, chassis reinforcement, you'd have to upgrade your brakes, possibly widebody to accomadate wheels you would need to hook up, you'd lose your AWD, a couple years, about 20 grand, and your patience. good luck.

on another note, used supras in great condition with ~80K can be had for 5000-7000 dollars, about $3K in mods, you will be untouchable on the highway...

 

[1998GSX]

You would VERY easily spend $10,000 in parts and custom labor/fabrication. I don't understand why you would want to do it anyways. Put the $10k into your car as is and eat Supras for lunch (as long as you stay off the freeway).

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124457

rdrkt seemed to hold his own on the free way...of course hes got a lil more under the hood than alot of us.

 

[Mirage2LTurbo]

Bring me a 20k down deposit, a 2JZ motor/tranny, and a donor Talon. I'll do it.

Or you could just do like the rest of us do, and build your 4g63.

 

[KFT0001]

I just wanted to point out that the 1JZ is twin turbo and it's the 7M that is single. You would be better off buying a MKIII Supra and swapping in a JZ engine. I did one before and the front clip cost $1600. MKIII's can be found pretty cheaply, especially if you buy one with a bad engine. This would be much cheaper than getting one into a DSM. If you just just want that engine in a DSM, then you're pretty much out of luck. It would just be rediculous the amount of time and money that would need to be spent. Even a MKIV Supra would be cheaper (not to mention more reliable) than a project like this.

 

[14.5 drift]

be better off tryin to swap in a rb26dett, already awd............

 

[coltboostin]

Thats a thought, but i was thnking more along the lines of has anyone done this before? I dont really kjnow how AWD works but based on what i think, putting in a totally different engine, like the 1JZ would also require the transmission from a supra. Correct? Then what about the driveshafts and stuff? Of course keeping the car AWD is a must. if anyone knows anything about what would be nesecary not only to put in the engine but also to make it work please post some info. Thanks

Judging by this post, you need lay off the pot smokeing, or go read a book and figure out how a freaking automobile operates. Can you say au-to-mo-bile?

 

[GPTourer]

be better off tryin to swap in a rb26dett, already awd............

Ummm, no that would be just as bad. The engine doesn't care wether its hooked up to a AWD or 2WD tranny, just as long as it fits. Nissan makes RWD versions of Skylines, admitedly with a smaller rb25det, but people swap in RB6DETT. The point is, he's trying to swap in an engine that's longer then a 4G63T and trying to make it work transversely so it either plugs into a GSX tranny, or get a Plusar AWD tranny (designed for a SR20DET transverse model) which probably won't work either. The only other option would be to put it in longitudinally, have part of the engine intruding into the cockpit and running either RWD or completely custom AWD setup.

It would probably be easier to buy a Skyline TT or Supra take the body panels off and throw a custom Eclipse body on it.

 

[BOOstGhost]

if you like supras so much go cheap get an MKII and do a 7MGTE swap, thats going to be my next car.

 

[espinelli]

Yeah really. Why not just buy a Supra?

 

[RustyDay16]

if you like supras so much go cheap get an MKII and do a 7MGTE swap, thats going to be my next car.

Hey, why settle for the mkii Supra/Celica? I just got my turbo in my talon and its great. But drifting in my 7mgte mkiii supra is completely a whole diff rush. The price to buy a decent mkii and 7mgte motor with all other ness. parts would cost a lot more then just straight foward to a 86.5-92 supra.

Not trying to hate on mkii owners though, awesome car as well.

 

[14.5 drift]

Ummm, no that would be just as bad. The engine doesn't care wether its hooked up to a AWD or 2WD tranny, just as long as it fits. Nissan makes RWD versions of Skylines, admitedly with a smaller rb25det, but people swap in RB6DETT. The point is, he's trying to swap in an engine that's longer then a 4G63T and trying to make it work transversely so it either plugs into a GSX tranny, or get a Plusar AWD tranny (designed for a SR20DET transverse model) which probably won't work either. The only other option would be to put it in longitudinally, have part of the engine intruding into the cockpit and running either RWD or completely custom AWD setup.

It would probably be easier to buy a Skyline TT or Supra take the body panels off and throw a custom Eclipse body on it.

I know. it's actually all bad. I just figured it would be one less problem

 

[ITSME4G63]

Maybe this would be more feasable on a 1g since the 1g has more space under the hood, or maybe it would be more feasable if you wanted to swap the rb26dett (skyline gtr) motor and trans, since its awd

 

[Mackzero]

Spend the $20K++ it would take on your GSX and you will just about destroy anything on the street. Supras are Supras, a toyota is a toyota, just build the crap out of your motor, get a badass turbo, standalone, and have it tuned to the hilt. You probably won't be able to control it under full throttle on the street, should be fun.

 

[Tallen]

Maybe this would be more feasable on a 1g since the 1g has more space under the hood, or maybe it would be more feasable if you wanted to swap the rb26dett (skyline gtr) motor and trans, since its awd

How about an Inline v10?

 

[huafist]

I feel dumber for having read this thread.
95biotch, I want the 10 minutes of my life back I wasted on your thread.

 

[coltboostin]

I feel dumber for having read this thread.
95biotch, I want the 10 minutes of my life back I wasted on your thread.

I felt this was after reading the topic....

 

[HokieDSM]

Seems to me this isn't a very smart idea at all - since we already have a great engine, decent drivetrain with AWD + turbo already set. No real reason to move to a different setup - especially given it won't really help you much in terms of power, since the 4G63T is already a very proven platform capable of just about any power requirements you need.

So why go with an Inline-6?

maybe it would be more feasable if you wanted to swap the rb26dett (skyline gtr) motor and trans, since its awd

Very true. This would be a much better idea than a Supra motor setup - although it'd require just as much fabrication. The end product would be a bit cooler too, I think.

If you're just looking for alternate power/drive setups, the setup from the Toyota Celica AllTrac would be even still more feasible than the Inline-6's. Or perhaps you could do a full EVO IV-VIII swap - which actually WOULD be very cool. Still though, you have to wonder why?

The point is - you can try anything you like, but any of these options is going to be very expensive to do - make sure you're going into it for the right reasons if you decide to do it. If you're looking for something unique, go for it. I know someone (Morphius?) was trying to do a V8 into a DSM - not my choice, but hell, if he wants to try it, then more power to him. Just make sure you know what you're looking to get out of such a project before you start sinking cash into it.