1g Head w/stroker

[gSx_r1der]

I'm looking to gain input on a current setup that kinda just fell into my hands, I have a guy who is selling a good 1g head(-150) and bare bone block for cheap. Now my question is with this upgrade at hand should I go with the 1g swap in lieu of me wanting to stroke it out any how and going with a 50-trim variant. Being that I want to go with a 50-trim variant on a stroker(ungodly spool) Wouldnt it be wiser to do at least the 1g head swap to take advantage of the larger ports and more top end being that Im going with a stoker and fairly small turbo (considering added displacement) to take advantage of the bottem end torque combined with the 1g's head and flowing ability???

 

[liquordrunk]

I'm looking to gain input on a current setup that kinda just fell into my hands, I have a guy who is selling a good 1g head(-150) and bare bone block for cheap. Now my question is with this upgrade at hand should I go with the 1g swap in lieu of me wanting to stroke it out any how and going with a 50-trim variant. Being that I want to go with a 50-trim variant on a stroker(ungodly spool) Wouldnt it be wiser to do at least the 1g head swap to take advantage of the larger ports and more top end being that Im going with a stoker and fairly small turbo (considering added displacement) to take advantage of the bottem end torque combined with the 1g's head and flowing ability???

If keeping the head semi sorta stock its a good deal but the install kit will run ya about 1 grand or more.

 

[gSx_r1der]

If keeping the head semi sorta stock its a good deal but the install kit will run ya about 1 grand or more.

Agreed! I didnt want to port or polish the head or race it out because of its capability, stock. I wanted a similar setup like yours, except I have a 2g and I wanted a 50trim with 850's. So my question was, was that price worth it for a bare bone block, and a working stock 1g head?? And with the bare bone stock block I thought it'd be a good idea to start preparing for the death of my 7-bolt cause its bound to come true some day.

 

[liquordrunk]

And yes that seems like a good deal if everything is in there. Ya know the pistons and whatnot. Im not really sure if your accessory pullies and shit will swap over since i never had a 2g. but the STOCK 1g head out performs the 2g.

 

[gSx_r1der]

anyone else have any input on this matter??

 

[Precision]

I would go with the stroker, after all there is no replacement for displacement.

 

[gSx_r1der]

I would go with the stroker, after all there is no replacement for displacement.

Please read the post before posting. My question is; the 2g head provides great low end and mid range torque because of the design of the head and the way the air hits the valves, from what I've gathered here on the tooners. So my question is since the 1g head provides more top end because of the bigger ports intake and overall head, would a 1g head be the best bet(top end power) since I plan on going with a stroked 6-bolt and a 50 trim variant(low end torque)??????

 

[krummel21]

I'd be interested in seeing what people think on this topic since I am also looking at installing a stroker and didn't know what to do about the head portion. I would be also installing 272/272 or would you go with 264/272 on the stroker? What do you people think would be the best? The car would also be mainly ran on the street.

Krummel21

 

[hostile]

If you have a 1g head I would run with it, if not keep your 2g head and use some of the money on a 2g SMIM. The factory intake seems a little small for a stroker, but the head is fine and has been proven to make good power on all different types of motors.

 

[krummel21]

So you think it would be alright to go ahead and keep the current head install an smim and cams. Once I have enough money get a 6-bolt short block and just put my head on it. If you don't think there is a down side to this I have no problem doing that. I was just undr the impression that the 1g head flows more air and the 2g is more for toruge and mid. Which the 2g would be best for my 2.0 on the street, is it still going to be the best for a 2.3 (Don't know)?

I just want a head that is the best for my setup and the street. My goals are 450-500 AWHP. The addititions I have planned are fuel upgrades, 2.3 stroker, Cams, and transmission. So a couple hundred bucks for the 1g head isn't an issue. Just want the best with out spending a lot extra.

I'm not disagreeing I just want to make sure I do everything right the first time. So if you still agree with going with the 2g head just tell why, performance wise.

Would an SMIM make up for the differences in flow and add hp?

Another thing I'm using this as a daily driver all year round so I don't want t sacrifice to much in that area.

Thanks a lot for your help,
Krummel21

 

[timloomis]

I guess its up to you.The 1g head is for top end like you said,but the stroker is really a torque motor to spool a big turbo,and not a 7000+ rpm motor.Like what was said above,the 1g is nice if you already have it,but the 2g one will match up with the torque curve that stroker has.But the 1g head could help if you wanted to wind it out a little more.Couldnt hurt.

 

[krummel21]

ALright well then I would probly only want the 1g if I were going for higher rpmms which wihtt he stroker your only going to 7k so the 2g will do just as good and allow more toque, correct? Do you think I should have the head port and polishedor just use it as is? What do you guys think about cams, which would be the best combo witht the stroker?


thanks,
krummel21

 

[hostile]

You will be fine with a 2g head, the factory intake manifold isn't big enough for a stroker, but a JMfab or magnus intake should work well.

 

[andymoraitis]

You will be fine with a 2g head, the factory intake manifold isn't big enough for a stroker.

Really? I guess the 51 lbs/min I run on my stock intake manifold with a stroker/50 trim is pretty weaksauce then...

I agree that a larger intake mani is a better bet but there's nothing wrong with using the stock parts. After all it's not like we rev the thing to the moon and need ungodly top end.