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Workling towards NASA Time Trials

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Ludachris

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So I've come to the conclusion that I probably won't do any wheel-to-wheel racing with this car. I just couldn't trade paint with it. But I will work towards competing in Time Trials with it. The difference between Time Trials and racing in a series is basically this: in TT, you're racing for the fastest lap, in a series you're racing for position. Less agressive passing and fewer chances of damaging the car. Since your'e not fighting for position in TT, you're less likely to take on body damage. That's important for me. I've already put way too much money into this car. If I want to do some wheel-to-wheel racing, I'll just buy a second car for it and keep it mostly stock in the beginning.

Most people think the first steps to competition is getting the car ready. The truth is, the driver usually requires more work than the car. I've been participating in the NASA HPDE (High Performance Driver Education) program - it's the most affordable driver program and the quickest path to racing your car on the track around. The way it works is this - you start out in HPDE1 (there are 4 levels before you get to racing wheel to wheel). In HPDE1, you're required to have an instructor with you everytime you're on the track. Your instructor will work with you and give you the tools you need to move up to HPDE2. Once you've moved out of the first two groups you've pretty much learned how to drive the "line" and how to handle your car correctly. You've also learned the basics of track situations and are comfortable in most situations. Passing is very limited in these groups.

Once you reach HPDE3 (the group I'm currently in), you start focusing on driving smooth and are allowed to pass in more places on the track. At this point you want to work on consistency and awareness of your surroundings. Chances are you'll be passed more often. I never got passed in the first two groups, but that was because my car was fast and I was comfortable driving it. When you move up to HPDE3, you're surrounded by faster drivers and everyone on the track is more confident. You'll learn to use your mirrors more often. It's a little intimidating, but it's also a lot more fun. Once the lead instructor feels you're ready, you can move up to HPDE4, where you can pass without "point-by's" and you start competing for lap time. That's where I hope to be next season.

The car is almost ready but I still need to do some work to improve the cooling system, install my TCE brake kit, and pick up some wider wheels and tires. The car is fast and it handles well. But I will likely want some stiffer spring rates at some point. More and more the car is becoming less comfortable for street driving, but it's so worth it when the track events come around. I'm hoping to be in HPDE4 so I can start participating in Time Trials next season. The problem is that since NASA is in its first season out here there are a limited number of events to participate in, not to mention the limited number of tracks here at the moment. If the plans go through for the new track out here, we'll have plenty of reason for celebration.

Anyway, I thought I'd let you guys know what I'm doing with this beast.
 
Nice to see you putting it to good use :sneaky:

Where is your HPDE school located? (what track?)
 
I agree with you Chris. This car has been my baby for 8 years now and I'd have a hard time gutting it totally and begin running wheel to wheel the way greg does. He's a true man, but I'll be happy to be out there running her for one good hard lap. I look at the TT events much like Formula 1 qualifying, go out there, get the car settled in and warmed up and then go balls out for a couple laps to see what you can turn in. The amount of preparation to the car for an event like that as compared to running 20 minutes straight is a good sized leap and probably one much closer to my budget range.

I'm bummed as I had to withdraw from one of my events in July as the car's just not ready yet as I found some issues with the rear calipers while installing the new brakes the other day and the cooling system is still very stock. Another couple hundred down the drain and she should be closer to go though.
 
Where is your HPDE school located? (what track?)
NASA typically runs HPDE at all tracks in a given region, not just one specific track. In my case, we have events at 4 tracks in the Rocky Mountain region, two of which are pretty close. The other two are 6 and 9 hour drives, but they're both brand new. The close tracks we still have around here are pretty old and worn, but it doesn't matter to me. If the plans go through, there should be a new track built about an hour away in the next 2 years. I'll be in heaven.
 
Sounds like a safe plan Chris. I know I wouldn't want to go wheel to wheel in mine either since the investment is just too great to justify it. Running like you were qualifying on your own sounds like much more fun anyway. Kind of like Time Attack.
 
Hey Kyle, I can relate - after seeing my car run hotter than I'd like over the weekend I'm making a parts list of things to combat it and I'm up near $1k already... and that's not even counting all the other stuff I already had on the list :(
 
Ludachris said:
Hey Kyle, I can relate - after seeing my car run hotter than I'd like over the weekend I'm making a parts list of things to combat it and I'm up near $1k already... and that's not even counting all the other stuff I already had on the list :(


Oh I know Chris. I got my 18g last summer and said "that's it, I'm happy, just little things from here". Then I started autocrossing seriously, looking into nasa hpde and TT days and next thing I know I'd amassed a $10k want list ROFL
 
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