Where to Buy 2G Mas replacement HoneyCombs?

[Cgillies86]

Anyone know where I can get some replacement honeycombs for my 2g mas. My car runs like shit and has no honeycombs in the Mas.

 

[Shadowfax]

unless things have changed over the last few years- and this is on my 3/S experience which uses the same MAF- 2nd gen MAF's don't like to be deprived of their honeycombs. I tried it about 5 years ago on my Stealth TT - and I found out like you will - the dealership sell stock MAF's but you'd be 1000X better off picking up a MAFT.

The dealership doesn't sell honeycombs (or at least none I ever found) because they aren't supposed to be taken out - they were mildly glued in on mine.

I found a 2nd gen MAF for my 1st gen for like $50 which is cheaper yet.

But I would suggest paying for the MAFT if you can.

 

[RamenPride]

best bet would probably be the junkyard. dont' think that the MAS honeycombs are something you'd be able to buy by themselves, would probably just have to buy another entire MAS

 

[Cgillies86]

unless things have changed over the last few years- and this is on my 3/S experience which uses the same MAF- 2nd gen MAF's don't like to be deprived of their honeycombs. I tried it about 5 years ago on my Stealth TT - and I found out like you will - the dealership sell stock MAF's but you'd be 1000X better off picking up a MAFT.

The dealership doesn't sell honeycombs (or at least none I ever found) because they aren't supposed to be taken out - they were mildly glued in on mine.

I found a 2nd gen MAF for my 1st gen for like $50 which is cheaper yet.

But I would suggest paying for the MAFT if you can.

Are you saying, If i buy a MAFT, Then the car will run better without the Honeycombs?

 

[Shadowfax]

Are you saying, If i buy a MAFT, Then the car will run better without the Honeycombs?

err... I'm saying if you buy a MAFT ($200) and a GM maf ($50-100) then you will no longer have your 2nd gen maf on your car, and hence, will run MUCH better

Plus the MAFT does fuel control - I've got a friend in a 2nd gen that tuned some 680's on his 98 GST in about 20 minutes on EGT/Datalogger only - tuned like top of 4th hitting 1600EGT barely, and 26mpg...

The MAFT might not outflow the 2nd gen MAF by TONS in drawthru- but you have the option of blowthru which I would recommend.

 

[Cgillies86]

err... I'm saying if you buy a MAFT ($200) and a GM maf ($50-100) then you will no longer have your 2nd gen maf on your car, and hence, will run MUCH better

Plus the MAFT does fuel control - I've got a friend in a 2nd gen that tuned some 680's on his 98 GST in about 20 minutes on EGT/Datalogger only - tuned like top of 4th hitting 1600EGT barely, and 26mpg...

The MAFT might not outflow the 2nd gen MAF by TONS in drawthru- but you have the option of blowthru which I would recommend.

Alright, ill consider that Option. Thanks.

 

[Cgillies86]

My car is a 1g, but the moron (the guy i bought the car from) cut off the 1g connector and wired it to a 2g one. So does that mean I need a 2g MAFT or should i just get a 1g connector and rewire it.

 

[Shadowfax]

My car is a 1g, but the moron (the guy i bought the car from) cut off the 1g connector and wired it to a 2g one. So does that mean I need a 2g MAFT or should i just get a 1g connector and rewire it.

heh - I'm rewiring mine with bullet connectors so I can run either my 1st gen connector or a 2nd gen.

I would probably run a 1st gen MAFT simply so that if there is a difference (I don't think there really is much) you can still run off others' tuning guidelines later on.

A million of us have a 1st gen MAF connector sitting around...

I'm not sure it really will make a difference - they cost the same either way - and any differences should be slight if at all.