what causes camber wear? How can i fix it?

[Dsm4lyfe12]

my camber wear is horrific on these new tires. They are the right tires, i do have lowering springs that are yellow, i have no idea what brand they are and i dont know what struts i have. Any help?

 

[gusu]

When you lower a car the camber is changed, you need to get a camber kit.

 

[Dsm4lyfe12]

I knew that, how is it caused?

 

[gusu]

I knew that, how is it caused?

I'm not sure what you are asking. To me it sounded like you were asking why your car has negative camber which I answered by it being lowered. It also sounded like you were asking how to correct it and I said by a camber kit then you said you already knew that?

If you already knew all of that what do you need to know?

 

[Dsm4lyfe12]

I meant to say that i knew it was from the lowering of my car. I didnt know that it was causeing negative camber and that was answer to my question sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[95TalonOwner]

You will need to buy a camber kit and then get a proper alignment after the adjustment bolts are installed.

 

[Sam@RRE]

Camber wont wear out tires dramaticly. Even with aggressive camber by the time the insides of the tire contact is bald, the outside will be at like 15~20% left. About time for a new tire anyways. But if your tire is bald on the inside and you have 70~80% left on the outside, you my friend have a bad toe alignment. Imagine your feet being the wheels of the car, with your toes pointing strait forward is how it should be, maybe out by a LITTLE BIT if you want quick turn in. But it sounds like your alignment is as if your toes are pointing outwards, the car will still drive fairly strait, but it scrubs off the tire like no tomorrow. Get your car aligned correctly, camber doesn't effect tire wear as bad as people think.

Normal Chamber wear: .5~2.0 degrees

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Aggressive camber wear: 2.5+ degrees

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Toe Wear:

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You notice how its so bad to the point the tire separates but the side with no wear is still at 70%-ish.

 

[LandoAWD]

RRE to the rescue! I started typing a toe post, then saw y'all had posted.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

If you think how the suspension pivots when you hit a bump or something, you understand how lowering will casue negative camber. A camber kit and a good alignment will get your suspension back in spec.

 

[Sam@RRE]

A little picture I drew up. But here is the science behind it, Not drawn to scale, but close enough As you lower the car, the control arms go from a droop to a neutral angle, "pushing" the lower part of the wheel out. Thus negative chamber. As far as toe, Your tie rod ends also travel through an arc as the car is lowered or raised and it changes your toe. The Tie rods are set at about a neutral 0* at stock ride height, as as you lower the car, the outbard ends point upwards and "pull" the rear of the tire in, thus toe out.

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[96 420a-t]

That first picture looks like toe wear on top of camber wear. Just my. 02¢ but ya alignment at least and recommend a camber kit.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

With any amount of drop you will need a camber kit in the rear, (or at least some washers ) as they are not adjustable. With small amounts of drop in the front you may be able to get it back into spec without a camber kit, but it is not recommended.

 

[Detroit Style]

When you lower a car the camber is changed, you need to get a camber kit.

Camber itself does not kill tires quickly, nor does it give the wear most call camber wear. When you lower a car, the wheels toe out causing them to scrub. This is what causes "camber wear" after lowering a car. The solution is to have the car realigned after any major suspension work.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

Camber itself does not kill tires quickly, nor does it give the wear most call camber wear. When you lower a car, the wheels toe out causing them to scrub. This is what causes "camber wear" after lowering a car. The solution is to have the car realigned after any major suspension work.

Not entirely true, I could actually see my wheel's negative camber when I lowered my car for the first time. I had it aligned right away afterwords, but I still got camber wear. With any major drop, you will need a camber kit to correct the alignment.

 

[knochgoon24]

You'll still get more wear on the inside edge with negative camber because that side of the tire is taking more load, magnifying the effect of toe wear.

 

[Detroit Style]

Not entirely true, I could actually see my wheel's negative camber when I lowered my car for the first time. I had it aligned right away afterwords, but I still got camber wear. With any major drop, you will need a camber kit to correct the alignment.

I fully agree with you though, I was talking from the "I just lowered my car, why is it killing tires" mind set. Just like the first post was made in.

 

[Dsm4lyfe12]

sorry guys, i should have explained myself better, its outer wear on my tire. could that be a tie rod or ball joint causing that or have to do with my lower springs.

 

[Sam@RRE]

Toe in will cause outer tire wear. Toe out will cause inner wear. Same principles as above. GET AN ALIGNMENT! Geeze, why wont anyone on tuners take advice given to them, especially with 90% of the responses concurring with the solution. The OP always A-doesn't listen, B-argue and suspect another problem, and C-both.

 

[snowborder714]

Get an alignment and post up the spec sheet. It'll give us more info than you can.