Twin turbo? [Merged 11-6]

[Spoolin95GSX]

Originally posted by 91TSi FWD
There was a person who twin turbocharged and supercharged a 4G63 around here that could run 1000+hp on alcohol. I don't think its even been in a car yet though.

I hope you're kidding...

 

[KRAZYKOREAN]

Originally posted by 91TSi FWD
There was a person who twin turbocharged and supercharged a 4G63 around here that could run 1000+hp on alcohol. I don't think its even been in a car yet though.

 

[Dr Suess]

Actually theres a way to super/turbocharge your car.
instant boost from the supercharger, and when the turbo spools to full the supercharger shuts off. pretty much eleminates lag. and you can run a HUGE turbo for lots of top end.
cool idea if youve got $$$$$, but i imagine it would be the biggest pain in the ass if something broke.

 

[Dieselboy]

Yeah, and umm.... who produces superchargers for the 4G63?

 

[madeagle]

How about a bi-turbo. I am not really interested in doing it, but just to have an idea if it could be a good thing. Use the first turbo for low RPMs and the second one for hight(should be bigger than the first one) I think AUDI does something like that.

 

[Dieselboy]

That is the whole idea behind a twin turbo setup.

 

[PMP_C_TEG]

Originally posted by Dieselboy
That is the whole idea behind a twin turbo setup.

Incorrect, that is the whole Idea behind a sequencial turbo set-up. There is a difference b/t the two.

 

[KRAZYKOREAN]

Originally posted by PMP_C_TEG


Incorrect, that is the whole Idea behind a sequencial turbo set-up. There is a difference b/t the two.

You didn't understand what Dieselboy said..he said qoute "That is the whole idea behind a twin turbo setup. "

because Madeagle said somehing about a turbo and supercharger..so yeah...

so anyway Twin turbo on DSM is dumb..and not worth it and pointless...also the only car I have seen ever turboed and supercharged is the Meguiars Integra...

 

[Dieselboy]

Originally posted by KRAZYKOREAN

so anyway Twin turbo on DSM is dumb..and not worth it and pointless...also the only car I have seen ever turboed and supercharged is the Meguiars Integra...

Agreed Jihan, and I dont think that car would make it all the way down the track. They made it for a show car and just to say it has *drums please* A TURBO AND A SC!!! HOLY COW!!!. They prolly tossed everything on with stock internals, the thing would prolly blow up at its 60' mark.

 

[91TSi FWD]

Originally posted by Dieselboy
Yeah, and umm.... who produces superchargers for the 4G63?

I don't fuggin know!! Its not my car. It was on display at a local auto show.

 

[Emg-ZW0770]

too much hate. come on everyone grow up and quit arguing , arguing leads to a crappy forum.

 

[KRAZYKOREAN]

Originally posted by Emg-ZW0770
too much hate. come on everyone grow up and quit arguing , arguing leads to a crappy forum.

OK Noob we will get right on that..

 

[Tallen]

how would we get anywhere without arguing? silly n00b

but seriously...tt is better off on a car that puts out more exhaust (bigger displacement), or you should prolly use 2 small turbos...smaller than t-25's (the guy who did that TT on a dsm used t-25's and didnt like it). the entire point of any TT setup is quick initial spoolup.....otherwise they'd be using a single bigass turbo.

 

[andol469]

The whole point behind twin turbocharging is to defeat turbo lag. To create the most power, twin turbo owners upgrade to single turbo setups.

People are confusing twin turbocharging with sequential turbocharging. There is a difference, but both are pointless on a 4g63.

In short, I agree with everything Dieselboy and KRAZYKOREAN have said.

 

[rhl1983]

Originally posted by KRAZYKOREAN


You didn't understand what Dieselboy said..he said qoute "That is the whole idea behind a twin turbo setup. "

because Madeagle said somehing about a turbo and supercharger..so yeah...

so anyway Twin turbo on DSM is dumb..and not worth it and pointless...also the only car I have seen ever turboed and supercharged is the Meguiars Integra...

there was an article in "TURBO" magizine about a compound induction MR2 with the V6 swapped in, they had a lot of tuning problems, but finally got it working sounds like a good setup, but probably not worth it to most people.

 

[DSM Stang-Eater]

Actually i think TT guys get the most power out of 2 big ass turbos, converting to a single large is very effective and much more cheap, but i think most of the faster guys use upgraded TT...........But either way TT on a dsm is pointless

 

[MrPikolo]

Originally posted by sacestar836
this one kid i know said he beat a twin turbo eclipse with his moms minivan

id like to take a ride in that van

He could have not been lieing, dodge caravans don't take much to make them fast.

Anyway, I think a twin turbo setup on our engines is just a waste of money. A single turbo can give you all of the power you will need. Twin turbo will take up to much space, generate more heat(i think?), and cost lots of money.

 

[hondakilla90]

HKS made a twinchager kit for like 6g for the AW-11 MR-2s
http://www2.msstate.edu/~sgn1/MR2/mkimod.htm

 

[TazManianDevil]

i want to twin turbo my eclipse gs-t 99 is there any way??? i want to add more hp... if ever how much do i need to send??? just estimate it...

 

[ran-o-matic]

I don't think two turbos will be a good approach for making power in our cars.

I would look at the tuning guides on this site before considering any modifications for more power. They give you the modifications required along with the order to perform them (and estimated cost) to build three different levels of performance.

 

[DSMRevolution]

Originally posted by ran-o-matic
I don't think two turbos will be a good approach for making power in our cars.

I would look at the tuning guides on this site before considering any modifications for more power. They give you the modifications required along with the order to perform them (and estimated cost) to build three different levels of performance.

Exactually. There have been so-called "kits" out there before to twin turbo a DSM, but I don't think it actually worked or was attempted.

 

[MNGSX]

Use a larger single turbo.


This is one question that gets beat to hell like BOV venting.

There are Twin sequential and twin parallel systems

Parallel twins are primarly usefull only on V8 engines due to the two cylinder banks.

Sequentiials end up on inline sixes like supras or rotory engines like Rx7's but thes often switch to a single when upgrading.

An inline four does'nt work to great with a parallel twin.

You can do sequential okay but by the time you are done effing around you could have a single ball bearing turbo that keeps things simple and reliable and spools as well.

Just get an affordable turbo upgrade as opposed to trying two T-25's if you were thinking youd save money by running two small turbos. Get a 16g or something.

 

[jpolizo]

There are two ways to "twin turbo".. One is to run them in parallel and use two small ones to get lots of flow and little lag. That approach makes some sense on somewhat bigger engines, like 6 cylinders.

The other way to go is to set them up sequentially, you have one sooper spooler for minimizing turbo lag and getting the engine up to enough RPM to spin a bigger turbo. That's an interesting idea but a pain in the keester to set up correctly; also I have no idea where in the heck to find enough space for the second turbo. Relocating it to the trunk probably ain't such a good idea.

 

[BKdaMoRoN]

As I like to say, "you can do anything with enough money". It just depends on how deep your pockets are.

 

[Colossus]

You generally need 2 intakes dont you? One per turbo? Or a double holed exhaust, and double intake? 1 for each turbo. There would be room I'd imagine. The GS Turbo kits mount the GS above the manifold, and the GS-T / GSX turbos are kinda down below. One on top of the other makes sense to me.......But in the end, wouldnt it be to much PSI unless your running low boost levels on both?