turbonetics 60-1

[mirkoelek]

Maybe. But I have potential. Your out
I use to have an e316g, that thing felt like it had no power. AND this was my first time running the car with the new turbo on it. We only spent about a half hour tuning it.

i made 350whp , race gas with evo , i can burn all four tires. smoke dude ... i bet with that turbo that youre talking about i would have to change tires every week ---> doesnt work for me

 

[rowlex]

i made 350whp , race gas with evo , i can burn all four tires. smoke dude ... i bet with that turbo that youre talking about i would have to change tires every week ---> doesnt work for me

Yea, race gas being the key term here. If I ran race gas I could run 28psi, at that level I would be flowing more than 49lbs/min (19lbs/min more then you) and be running low 11's. I run into too much knock and my timing gets pulled at 21psi. Because im flowing what your turbo does at 21psi. Im also running on a stock clutch/cams.

When I install water/alcohol/meth injection i should be able to turn it up a lot more w/o knock retard.

this turbo is not even running in its efficiency range until over 25psi...

 

[mirkoelek]

Yea, race gas being the key term here. If I ran race gas I could run 28psi, at that level I would be flowing more than 49lbs/min (19lbs/min more then you) and be running low 11's. I run into too much knock and my timing gets pulled at 21psi. Because im flowing what your turbo does at 21psi. Im also running on a stock clutch/cams.

When I install water/alcohol/meth injection i should be able to turn it up a lot more w/o knock retard.

cool let me know how worked for you. I dont know to much about water injection ... how that works

 

[rowlex]

cool let me know how worked for you. I dont know to much about water injection ... how that works

it will work well, for you also it cools the intake charge allowing you to run more boost! check out coolingmist.com for details

 

[sweet97]

My Turbonetics 60-1 ran great at 22/23 psi, spooled quick with pump. Do a search for 60-1 mods with sweet97 as the author. Lots of good info on the 60-1. Mark

 

[slvrstingray]

I'm running a Turbonetics 60-1 right now also. I've had it on since last May. However, my car isn't built for drag, it is aimed towards AutoX and Road Racing. I have both the .82 exhuast housing and the .63 housing. Right now i'm running the .63 and I'm getting 20psi at 3800rpms with 720cc denso injectors on 91 octane pump gas.. It spools quick, an the car pulls real hard. The drawback, is that it's a little flat on the top. But I must tell you that i love the damn thing!!

 

[rowlex]

for you guys running over 20 psi....are you seeing a lot of knock or anything?? How are you tuning...if dsmlink I would love to get a hold of your datalogs..if you looked at mine im getting 7 counts at 21 psi and im not sure if I just need to tune it better (less pull of timing and less fuel) i think it may be running a little rich but I have trouble thinking that their is a such thing as "rich knock"....

 

[definitiveno]

The drawback, is that it's a little flat on the top.

If your mod list is current the flatness is from the stock cams/intake manifold/throttle body..............


the 60-1 is a top end monster, you shouldn't have that problem.

 

[JoeWagon]

i made 350whp , race gas with evo , i can burn all four tires. smoke dude ... i bet with that turbo that youre talking about i would have to change tires every week ---> doesnt work for me

Anyone who makes more than 350whp is an idiot because they will probably have to get new tires.

dude i make more power with my evo16g

No you don't -- you just don't know how DSMlink works. HP calc means nothing, look at the airflow. If you are even making 40lbs/min, you're definitely not making it at 20psi.

60-1 has been around for a while and makes a bunch of power. They use the same wheel in a Red. BB turbos do not spool up faster, and this turbo is not 'outdated'. There is no magical answer why the turbo is "good", it runs 11's and faster, the end.

 

[SpoOLxExO]

60-1 has been around for a while and makes a bunch of power. They use the same wheel in a Red.

This is true.

BB turbos do not spool up faster, and this turbo is not 'outdated'. There is no magical answer why the turbo is "good", it runs 11's and faster, the end.

This is rediculous. You said the 60-1 is not outdated (Which it is design is more that 50 years old) and that Ball Bearing turbos (Vague classification, Turbos? which turbos?) Do not spool faster, which is also wrong. Ball bearing CHRA's greatly help shaft acceleration, which in turn spools faster.

Where did you get this information, and why are you posting it here?

You should know the rules about heresay/misinformation.

 

[sweet97]

According to joeracer321 from GREperformance the BB turbo's spool about 10% quicker that an equal thrust bearing counterpart. Significant but not earth shattering. 3600 compared to 4000 as an example. BB turbo's seem to be less robust than a thrust bearing turbo. As for design the Holset and GT series garrett's are the most technologically advanced IMHO. I have a new 60-1 that I have sitting because my Holset that I bought as a fill in spare spools really quick for a bigger turbo, most freely spinning turbo I have run. I've had an EVO3, 50 trim, 60-1 and the Holset. I liked the 60-1 most of the previous turbo's I ran as it has exceptional spool and easily ran 22/23 psi on pump. All good. Your personal goal is what deceides along with what you can afford to support.

 

[rowlex]

i did some more tuning today and obliterated most of my knock in the 22-24 ish psi area...im getting full boost (22psi) by 4800 rpm, i have the garrett center 60-1.

alot of my knock seemed to be related to the MAF switchover point at 2000hrz.

 

[Slippi84]

See full boost a tad under 5k won't cut it for my needs. I am a drag racer at heart and love the straight and narrow but this is my dd and a tubo that has that much lag will be like driving a NA under normal driving conditions cause i will take a year and a day to boost. If this thing gets me intothe low 11's I really won't care though. I saw someone say that the top end is flat, do intake maniold cams increas your top end that much to the point where the turbo seems totaly diffrent w/o them?

 

[95AWD_TSI_TALON]

I saw someone say that the top end is flat, do intake maniold cams increas your top end that much to the point where the turbo seems totaly diffrent w/o them?

YES! back when I had my 60-1 I had a stock 1g manifold on my set-up. I was doing slower ET's shifting my car at 9k which is what my head and cams were set-up for. Yes just cams alone helped out ALOT. But when I also upgraded my manifold was when everything shined together.
Matthew

 

[95AWD_TSI_TALON]

I saw someone say that the top end is flat, do intake maniold cams increas your top end that much to the point where the turbo seems totaly diffrent w/o them?

YES! back when I had my 60-1 I had a stock 1g manifold on my set-up. I was doing slower ET's shifting my car at 9k which is what my head and cams were set-up for then shifting at 8k. Yes just cams alone helped out ALOT. But when I also upgraded my manifold was when everything shined together.
Matthew