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tranny....or clutch????

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shoguntalon

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Apr 8, 2003
Tremonton, Utah
how doi tell the difference between which one may be going out on my car. when i go to put my car into 1st gear it is rough and won't slip easily into gear. you either have to force it or or wait until your rpms drop low enough that it will slip in. it also has trouble getting into reverse. i changed the slave cylinder and the clutch master but niether of those things worked. and my clutch has less than 2000 miles on it so i was leaning more towards the tranny but i was also told i may just have a bad clutch disk?? i have taken it to a few shops and theydon't know what is wrong unless they start taking things apart and i don't like to get screwed over by repair shops. if anyone gots an idea i would love to hear it! peace
 
My DSM does the same but it also is hard to push into 2nd and 3rd and sometimes 4th. I read on another thread that it could be that the tranny is too full. Im gonna try lettign out the exess fluid and see what happens. Ill post and let you know:dsm:
 
hard to get into first must wait to get to low rpms and still not a smooth shift into first... and reverse isnt as bad but still alittle rough... new clutch went in about 4000 miles ago... whats the deal...
 
Once you do get it into gear, at what point does your clutch engage? Right off the floor? Or more towards all the way out?
 
Originally posted by shoguntalon
it seems to be engaging more towards the floor about where it normally did before it went bad... what could be the different problems depending on where the clutch starts to engage?wether its towards the floor or more out.......

If you have it engaging too close to the floor your clutch may not be disengaging enough to get a smooth shift.
 
Originally posted by Sk8er07999
Once you do get it into gear, at what point does your clutch engage? Right off the floor? Or more towards all the way out?

more or less off the floor... the clutch is new so its pretty tight
 
All I know is that I did the clutch job on my 2g and when I first put it in I couldn't get it into any gear. I had to bring the engagment point All the way out as it was way in with the old clutch.
 
this same thing happens on my car. sometimes my car will just be a bi*** and ill have force it in every gear, most of the time its just the first gear and reverse. it doesn't happen very often but when it does....its a pain in the ass to drive.
i don't know if i have the same problem or different problem because it happens no matter what the idle is at.
my gear will grind in reverse and in first if idle is over 1k, sometimes it won't go in.
 
also when i havent been driving it for awhile and it has been sitting it seems to shift alot easier. Then after i drive it for like 15 minutes then it starts to act up on me. I was wondering if maybe that had to do something with with the tranny oil gets warmed up or maybe the when the clutch disk warms up it expands and cause problems??? any ideas???
 
well i had the same exact problem you guys have been having, but then i checked my mastet cylinder, and it almost empty, so i filled it up...and it didn't seem to help, so then i bled all the air out of the slave cylinder and it shifted fine again. But of course, i still had the minor problems i had with the tranny because its old.... and also because dsm trannys are weak as hell...;)
 
I first bled my master/slave, (100% fluid exchange) that didnt help then I re-adjusted thy clutch and that also didnt help. would bad motor mounts have any thing to do with this problem? I dont see how. the shift linkage is mounted straight to the tranny. Anyway I still think its the fluid being overfull. But by now I have probably destroyed the syncros. Can it be cheaper to repair the tranny instead of replacment?
 
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