To get to 200 Pony's

[91hondahatch]

Ok, here the story

I have a 94 playmouth laser, 2 liter motor, fwd

Already went to go look at an AWD turbo car but the parents wouldn't let me get it, they said i had to keep my car for at lease 2 years (untill i'm 18)

So...... My goal is 200 HP out of my laser, i have about 2 grand to spend on it.

So far i figured Cams
Nitrous (35 Shot maybe 50)
Header
Exaust

I have look around for most of these things and there are quiet a few different ways to go
I was thinking for cams just get the turbo cams,if anybody has any other ideas it would be greatly appricited

For nitrous i was thing of going for the Zex kit for about 650 i believe. Once again if someone had a good experience with another kit you could tell me about it

I haven't found to much stuff for a header/exaust system. I don't think there are to many for the 1g n/t. But if someone know's about anything please tell me

Thanks,
Rob

 

[Laser93Nash]

My future plans. Might help you. .

Under drive pulleys
pace stetter header
custom catback
turbo cams
Intake
K&N
Polyurathane motor mounts(Not engine performance)
gasket match intake manifold


I'll probably think of more later. Right now I'm at school

50 shot would probably help you along too. Later

~Andrew~

 

[Daedalus]

Yea, check out my new setup in this forum, It basically is like the suggestion above. Most likely to get to 200 WHP you will need to spray at least a 35. If you get a ported and polished head, and a 3 or 5 valve job this can increase hp as much as 20-40hp depending on the quality of the work. So it is possible, but no one has really done it. The highest N/T 4G63 I have heard of is lating 176.8 down to the wheels. Search for "The all motor allternative" for a great guide on boosting performance.

 

[r.a. frank]

Don't forget higher compression pistons and adjustable timing gears. Dump the A/C components...I know I know...no performance there but that's dead weight

-Royce-

 

[NyteDSM96]

timing gears sounds smart, i like the idea of changing ur camshafts, it'll be better for future modifications.

 

[speedy13]

you can't raise the compression too much if your going for a no2 setup though. I would like to hit 200 hp too, even if its only at the crank and not at the wheels.

 

[91hondahatch]

Thanks Everyone

I'll look into all of those

 

[GSGoinFast]

http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/zex-82021

zex wet kit, $535 shipped. dont go dry, from what ive heard

 

[spocks90talon]

Dont get pacesetters headers, they crack real easy, especially if your running nitrous. OBX makes headers for the N/T, i see them on Ebay all the time for like $120, i think those are the best for the price, never heard of them cracking. Borla makes headers for the N/T too but they are hard to find and pricey($400) so go with the OBX headers, pacesetter does make a good exaust though, the cat back is like $200 but deffinitly worth it, get the full exaust(headers, high flow cat, catback) and a good intake,turbo cams, injectors, fuel rail, underpully's, turbo fuel pump, and a MSD ignition and you should be around 175-180HP. this is my plan to do to my talon so ive reseached it and this is what i think you can do without nitrous, if you go on the bottle after all that you should get close to if not over 200HP

 

[GSGoinFast]

Dont get pacesetters headers, they crack real easy, especially if your running nitrous.

explain how running nitrous makes them crack faster?

so on this vv your talking NA mods? ok

get the full exaust(headers, high flow cat, catback) and a good intake

thats a good start

turbo cams

why would you get turbo cams? unless your talking about the stock turbo intake cam, then yes that would help

injector

dont need

fuel rail

dont need

underpully's

that will help

turbo fuel pump

dont need

and a MSD ignition

dont need

you should be around 175-180HP. this is my plan to do to my talon so ive reseached it and this is what i think you can do without nitrous, if you go on the bottle after all that you should get close to if not over 200HP

it really doesnt seem like you researched enough, or at all. most of the things you listed will not give you power at all, they are just mods needed when your running turbo or nitrous, and you said this was all without nitrous. please show me any NT eclipse gaining 35-40 hp from an intake, header, hi flo cat, cat back, intake cam, and udp. a guy with a fully built engine didnt even pull 160whp.

come on man dont just throw around useless mods and completely unrealistic power numbers. oh and also dont ressurect an old thread to give baseless and false information but hey, atleast your searching

 

[dr1665]

you can't raise the compression too much if your going for a no2 setup though.

Actually, from what I've read, nitrous responds well to engines with a nice little bump in CR. I think the ability of the expanding nitrous to chill the intake charge helps out enough that spraying a higher CR motor is a good idea. Of course, since you wouldn't be running the shot constantly, you don't want to go all shit-kicker crazy and throw in some 12.5s, but I think a ~10:1 would be a good time with the spray.

And why would your parents, who wouldn't let you get a turbo car, allow you to install a bottle of flammable gas in a car you already admit to ####ing up twice at your own fault? Are they really that daft? Methinks they might be.

Finally, try posting this sort of thing in the 1GNT forum. We have no real need of learning the ins and outs of the 4G63 in this forum, so you're pretty much limited to getting theories based on general engine building concepts versus specific information relating to your platform.

 

[GSGoinFast]

Actually, from what I've read, nitrous responds well to engines with a nice little bump in CR. I think the ability of the expanding nitrous to chill the intake charge helps out enough that spraying a higher CR motor is a good idea. Of course, since you wouldn't be running the shot constantly, you don't want to go all shit-kicker crazy and throw in some 12.5s, but I think a ~10:1 would be a good time with the spray.

ya higher compression is better... i think DSMJim gave a good explanation. i think because with a turbo you are forcing a greater quanity of hotter air which creates a lot more pressure in the cylinder. nitrous you have more oxygen but you dont get that high just in cylinder pressure because you arent physically putting more air in the engine, your doing it chemically.

And why would your parents, who wouldn't let you get a turbo car, allow you to install a bottle of flammable gas in a car you already admit to ####ing up twice at your own fault? Are they really that daft? Methinks they might be.

my dad did the same thing. but he didnt want me to turbo more because of the cost then me screwing it up, but that was a factor too. But nitrous isnt flammable

 

[XMasta19]

umm, why are you guys debating a situation that a guy asked almost an entire year ago! hey spocks, how did you even manage to find this thread anyways? we'll just pretend you thought it was a 2005 and a 4 for april

anyways, it's always good to get some great info from dr and gs

 

[Defiant]

Oh, my. Just look at that "SELL BY" date, would you?