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How old are you??? My advice is sell your car to a DSM enthusiast and buy yourself a nice civic like your homeboys. And try and use periods, also "dinoed" is spelled dynoed
 
First of all, you just don't slap parts like big turbos FMIC's, injectors etc. without some sort of tuning!!! Like most people here suggested already, go get a S-AFC and a datalogger (the logger is like a complete must with the level of mods that you have). About "dinoing" you can get a VCE from mach V or a welded center diff. I'm pretty sure RRE can hook you up with dynoing. Also check out www.diamondstarspecialties.com they also from socal and they have great prices and mike's a great guy.

You shouldn't be driving that car, you're better off putting the stock turbo and SMIC on and stock injectros and just play with the boost controller, I promise it will be faster than what it currently is.
 
Oh yeah that external fuel pump must be flooding your fuel rail if you don't have a AFPR. Go ditch that crap and get a in-tank unit.
 
Originally posted by dsm girl
I thought i had help in the shop I had it in, but I was wrong they dont know crap about this cars all they did was put in the motor but the vacume lines were wrong so I took the car to another guy I met that has a car like mine and knows about the cars and he fixed all the hoses and wiring. I tried to put parts in it that fallowed the upgrade sequence in extreeme motorsports web page and it said the cars can run up to 17 psi i beleive withought an afc but i guess i will need one after all and for those who asked I do have a front mount on the car and its not that i have a lot of money its that the shop hooked me up with a turbo, front mount with piping, hks external wastegate,manifold ,for a good price $ 1,900. And yes I had been told to take the car to RRE and its about 2 hours from where i live but i thought they would not dino my car because its AWD and they mainly work for raly cars not quarter mile set ups but i am going to give them a call and see what they say.


After the car is dinoed will the lag problem go away because I really want to be able to have a good luanch and not bug down like if the car has no power or would i have to get a smaller turbo like a 16g so i have a faster spool up.

RRE can still tune your car even if it is AWD. They do all types of work and they know DSMs inside out so if you take it to them they can get it working the way it should.
 
Any 50trim Garrett T3/T4 is a great turbo. If you have a really large exhaust housing it will take some time to spool, but should not be that bad. You should be able to make full boost no later than 4000rpm which should come quickly. If you don't have an AFC then your car is dumping lots of fuel and that's killing the spool time.

That turbo is capable of way over 400hp at the wheels and has pulled 4G63 powered cars into low 11's. It's a great comprimise between a small and a large turbo. It's the same thing that is used to make the Forced Performance Green model turbo which they call the ultimate street turbo and I agree.

Get the fuel sorted out and you will hand them their asses. I had an all motor guy tell me turbo cars are nothing speical once. He had never been in a turbo car. I took him out in my car and he could not believe the difference in torque between an all motor and a turbo powered car. Guess what he is in the process of installing on his car right now?
 
The car isn't bogging down b/c the turbo lag, its bogging down b/c the cylinders are getting about 35% more fuel then they should... You can have the shop you take it to tune it for high boost, but I'd recommend you set it at about 12PSI until you get used to it, then up the boost to what ever the tuner shop told you to run on the street.

Someone who is used to driving a 100HP DSM ( b/c the fuel problem ) getting into the same car after its jumped to 400+ HP could be dangrous. Just be careful, this car is going to be handful for you... And never let anyone else drive it, b/c they may kill your car and themseleves...
 
hahahahahaha.........you gotta love the all motor honda guys to say a dsm is piece of ####. Once the car is tuned they'll be lucky if they can see your taillights being soo far behind.
 
Originally posted by TRBOTSI
How old are you??? My advice is sell your car to a DSM enthusiast and buy yourself a nice civic like your homeboys. And try and use periods, also "dinoed" is spelled dynoed


Damn dude, don't be so ###, she's trying to get help, maybe she does'nt know as much as we do, but hey, we had to start somwhere right? No need to be a ####ing #### towards her for it though. That has gotta be the stupidest advice I have ever heard of, go buy a honda? OMFG go smoke another bowl.
-Jake
 
Originally posted by evil_eagle



Damn dude, don't be so ###, she's trying to get help, maybe she does'nt know as much as we do, but hey, we had to start somwhere right? No need to be a ####ing #### towards her for it though. That has gotta be the stupidest advice I have ever heard of, go buy a honda? OMFG go smoke another bowl.
-Jake

yeah what he said!!!!!
 
Bah if it was a dude you guys would be flaming as well. Buch of ####y-whipped fools. :D Oh yeah 550's are a bit small for that settup.
 
Originally posted by evil_eagle



Damn dude, don't be so ###, she's trying to get help, maybe she does'nt know as much as we do, but hey, we had to start somwhere right? No need to be a ####ing #### towards her for it though. That has gotta be the stupidest advice I have ever heard of, go buy a honda? OMFG go smoke another bowl.
-Jake

Like TSI92 said, if this was a dude you guys would have the same attitude as me...Actually I've seen more intelligent threads and siuations and alot of the same people that have replied to this thread went completely off on the person that posted. But all of a sudden it's a girl and we have to spoon feed her and be all proper, yeah right buddy. And you must be the one smoking the bowl thinking you'll get play by kissing her ass. Grow up Highschool, this isn't 6th grade and I'm not here to impress the girls...
 
Originally posted by TRBOTSI


Like TSI92 said, if this was a dude you guys would have the same attitude as me...Actually I've seen more intelligent threads and siuations and alot of the same people that have replied to this thread went completely off on the person that posted. But all of a sudden it's a girl and we have to spoon feed her and be all proper, yeah right buddy. And you must be the one smoking the bowl thinking you'll get play by kissing her ass. Grow up Highschool, this isn't 6th grade and I'm not here to impress the girls...

Your a F-----G idiot dude. its not right to go off on anyone especially if they're just trying to get some decent help. Male or female who gives a damn they just need help and some ass---- saying go buy and honda is not the help they need. People like you and the ass who said go buy a honda don't deserve to be on this message board!!!!!!!:barf:
 
How come everytime I subscribe to a thread, I check back and people are fighting/flaming back and forth... Help the person out or shhhh..
 
1) You have too much gas because you don't have any fuel control. This cause you to run pig rich and bog the engine, which in turn won't give you the performance you are looking for. Does your car puff a lot of black smoke when you mash the throttle?

2) Take it to a trusted DSM tuner. These cars are different than 75% of the other common cars out there and need someone who knows what they are doing. Obviously neither you nor your buddies at the shop do so find someone else. Road Race Engineering is by far one of the best on your side of the country. Go there. Engine tuning in is importent no matter what type of racing you do: rally, drag, etc.

3) You will get tons of advice from people in all knowledge ranges and all parts of the country. It's your responsibility as the car owner to find the correct info. If you don't want to do the work, then a DSM is a tough car to 'skate by' on. You need to know your stuff and know the car. Take time away from all the cheeba-monkeys (like in this thread) and read and research. The more you know, the more you will be able to qualify the guy who is going to work on your car.

4) Good Luck. You have a long road ahead of you. You added tons of parts before ever making sure the car was tuned first. Now you are in a pickle. It will take a while to get out and will cost you some money.
 
Originally posted by TRBOTSI


Like TSI92 said, if this was a dude you guys would have the same attitude as me...Actually I've seen more intelligent threads and siuations and alot of the same people that have replied to this thread went completely off on the person that posted. But all of a sudden it's a girl and we have to spoon feed her and be all proper, yeah right buddy. And you must be the one smoking the bowl thinking you'll get play by kissing her ass. Grow up Highschool, this isn't 6th grade and I'm not here to impress the girls...


Listen up little boy, I'm not in highschool anymore, have not been for along time, in fact when I was in school you were still sucking on your mom's tits, so STFU. Next I am married with 2 kids and helping this girl out is not butt kissing as you stated, nor am I sticking up for her.

If you said this to anyone, be it a guy or girl I would still tell you to STFU. Your the kind of rice boy that does'nt know the difference between a hole in the ground and hole in your ass. If you don't have any good advice then my advice to you would be STFU and don't post studid ####.
Regardless if it's a girl or guy or dog or whatever, I will still help out. I did not see anywhere where she came across as a jerk for you to post somthing like that. It's just common respect your fool, oh wait, you don't have any respect. Is your johnson any bigger from being an ass? well if it can reach your ass-hole then go #### your self.

Go back to breast feeding little boy. Oh and I got a box of tissues for you if you need them, go cry #####. Damn i hate ricers like you.
-Jake
 
Once you lean out your fuel curve with a AFC maybe you should think about upgrading the exhaust. 2.5 is getting kind of small for a t3-t4 turbo.
 
Originally posted by TSi92
Bah if it was a dude you guys would be flaming as well. Buch of ####y-whipped fools. :D Oh yeah 550's are a bit small for that settup.

I agree 100%. I've seen better questions get the "SEARCH, MOTHERF'ER!!" Ok, maybe not that bad but still... I am impressed that the wisemen or the aspiring aren't letting it fly if not for the questions but the bad grammar and spelling.

Dsm_Girl


My advice to you, start here:

http://www.dsm.org/

And then...

http://www.vfaq.com/index-main.html
 
Thanks guys for helping me out. I realy thought this web site was for DSM owners who try to help each other, but I was wrong for the most part. Who ever said I can't spell, this is what i got in response who gives a f#ck I really dont think I need to worry about a period or spelling because I'me not doing school work and I am 21if you wanted to know.I am not here to impress any girls what the f#$k is that I am not looking to get impressed and especially from someone I dont know and who knows where you live, shi# your a laim little kid. Thanks Evil eagle and everyone else that is trying to help. I guess it aint to hard to find out who is grown up and who are the little kids, learn manners and respect. My car don't want to start so I am going to take it to RRE and have them dynoe the car and tune it.
 
Originally posted by ChicagoGSX
It's not that difficult to use proper punctuation and it makes it much easier to read.
:thumb:
It may not be schoolwork, but your chances of getting decent responses decrease in direct proportion to the ease in which your posts can be comprehended.
 
Originally posted by dsm girl
Thanks guys for helping me out. I realy thought this web site was for DSM owners who try to help each other, but I was wrong for the most part. Who ever said I can't spell, this is what i got in response who gives a f#ck I really dont think I need to worry about a period or spelling because I'me not doing school work and I am 21if you wanted to know.I am not here to impress any girls what the f#$k is that I am not looking to get impressed and especially from someone I dont know and who knows where you live, shi# your a laim little kid. Thanks Evil eagle and everyone else that is trying to help. I guess it aint to hard to find out who is grown up and who are the little kids, learn manners and respect. My car don't want to start so I am going to take it to RRE and have them dynoe the car and tune it.

You have to realize that you will run into #######s on this board and not everyone is like that, you just happened to bump into the wrong guys. Just ignore it and take what you can from the guys who actually know something. Most of the people on the board are here to help you out..:thumb:
 
Originally posted by my95tsi


You have to realize that you will run into #######s on this board and not everyone is like that, you just happened to bump into the wrong guys. Just ignore it and take what you can from the guys who actually know something. Most of the people on the board are here to help you out..:thumb:


There are ways about getting help and there aren't. When you first get into the DSM game, you gotta read the FAQ from the dsm.org website. Second of all, I don't think it's too hard to ask to formulate a grammatically correct sentence, not one that requires a public key to decipher.
 
the stock injectors can provide adequate fuel uptp 16psi. with such a huge turbo you should get a fmic, ecu upgrade, roll cage and 6 point nascar style harness cause your gonna kill yourself in it when it's fully tuned. my car is stock except for a few intake mods,and i took out the balance shafts and i'm sure no honda can come close to it. heck I used to have an 88 escort gt they couldn't touch!
 
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