Talon Race Car Cage Pics

Rallsport · Dec 22, 2004

Rogue9 · Dec 22, 2004

Looks way to nice to be a race car. :thumb:

But by next year I bet that will change.

AWDrift · Dec 22, 2004

Did that stiffen the car up a little bit?

Nice job

leet · Dec 22, 2004

I'm jealous! :thumb:

You need to resize your pics though

L2RTSiAWD · Dec 22, 2004

Very nice.

Fixed your pics so they are linked since they were a tad to big.

fwdturbobov1996 · Dec 22, 2004

nice . Great choice on the seats . Looks good .

2-0turbo · Dec 22, 2004

Looks nice. What does it weigh?

Rallsport · Dec 22, 2004

Thank you all for the nice comments. The cage stiffened things quite a bit, we also put in urethane bushings all around, and custom aluminum sub-frame bushings (front and rear). The JIC suspension seems to work well with the chassis improvements. It feels like a go cart

I don't know how much it weighs, definitely lighter than stock. It will be scaled in spring to adjust the corner weights, I'll post the results. Not much went back into the car after the cage work.

When we first got the car done, we put the stock t-25 on the six bolt race motor to break it in. It was silly.

leet · Dec 22, 2004

I'm curious, how long did all that seam welding take?

I've entertained the idea of doing it to my car, but it will have to wait until I have something else to drive as well

Rallsport · Dec 22, 2004

We have just over 500 manhours into the project right now.

9d2TSi · Dec 23, 2004

Time well spent, that thing's going to rock! Awesome job. :thumb:

jott5555 · Dec 23, 2004

why seam weld everything? what gain would that have?

ASMX86Routine · Dec 24, 2004

why didn't you go with a tubular subframe?

1fast97gsx · Dec 24, 2004

if this is an all out "race" car ... why even bother putting in a passenger seat??? Other than that looks nice.

chuckdog_5 · Dec 24, 2004

no engine pics?

ninjai_ruken · Dec 24, 2004

Car looks nice

PaleDSM · Dec 24, 2004

I am glad you brought the pics and stuff over to this board as well. I would like to watch and see how you do with this project.

Come on spring!

Rallsport · Dec 27, 2004

jott5555
"why seam weld everything? what gain would that have?"

This is a fundamental step in building a race car (especially for rally and hillclimb). The unibody is simply not meant to handle the stresses that will be placed on it by the improvements made in the suspension. It would be a waste of money to put nice suspension on a floppy chassis. Seam welding also will help the chassis take the abuse of competitive driving; we built this as a platform to use for the next few years.

ASMX86Routine
"why didn't you go with a tubular subframe?"

There are two subframes on the car, not sure the point of trying to make those tubular? If you mean why didn't we build a tube chassis car and hang the body on it, many of the races we would like to compete in do not allow full tube chassis construction...it still has to be a car

1fast97gsx
"if this is an all out "race" car ... why even bother putting in a passenger seat??? Other than that looks nice.

We put a passenger seat in because it is necessary to have a co-driver for some of the events we would like to compete in, besides, you have to have a seat to give the hot chicks a ride in

chuckdog5
"no engine pics?"

Here is the only one I have, its a fully built six-bolt (all forged components, headwork, etc...). We expect the horsepower in full race trim to be around 450-500, I'll post dyno results when it goes for tuning. The picture is right after we got the motor in the car (look ma no fenders

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I welcome any more questions/comments.

Rallsport

leet · Dec 27, 2004

That is going to be FUN to drive. I'm very jealous, keep up the good work :thumb:

ninjai_ruken · Dec 27, 2004

looks slick, i envy you so much, i love to race. drag get outta here im a Road Racin kinda guy. Any thing with hills, turns the stuff that makes your six point harness pinch your nuts :thumb:

I used to have a GST that was built for racing. Not as serious as your car but it was along the same line. but I have a kid on the way, my gf is ganna pop any day i give it 3 weeks at the most. :thumb:

You guys are ganna have to get some pics of it at the track. i would love to see that. and i love them engine bay pics

ASMX86Routine · Dec 27, 2004

sorry, shoulda been more specific. i was talking about the front subframe. forgot which company makes a chromoly tubular front s/f for us, but that or tubular control arms with some poly bushings would def. be worth looking into(if you havent already). im not talking about a tube chassis or anything like that. il see if i can find a picture of what im talkin about.

anyways, for beginner fabricators and project-goers this is really an inspiration. keep us all posted. and :thumb:

for the impressive work.

Rallsport · Dec 28, 2004

I'm not sure that you would gain anything by making them tubular except possibly shedding a pound (nice because it's unsprung weight). While doing tech inspection at STPR (big national ProRally) I saw a 1G with custom tubular arms on the front. He made them because he didn't like working with crappy used factory ones, I'm not sure they gave him any benefit other than being clean and tidy. Also, if you make all of the components in the system super strong you'll break big. I would rather bend a suspension arm then bend the corner of the car.

Rallsport · Dec 28, 2004

leet · Dec 28, 2004

The rear brake ducts are a pretty clever idea.

Now all you need is a front air dam

cait sith · Dec 28, 2004

Very nice. I like it a lot. Makes me want to go get a MIG/TIG welder... Along with a daily driver! :cry:

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