?s about IC piping with more bends equals less HP?

[GstRacer]

ya someone was telling me that the more bends in your IC piping equals less less hp is that tru or not??

 

[MNGSX]

Unless they are severe and restrictive it mostly effects spool... I have heard it said that each 90 effects as much spool as an extra foot of piping...

Limit the number of bends and keep them gradual.

 

[98spyderboost]

I read that 1 short 90* bend is effectively a 1psi difference. I dont see how it would effect psi but that's just what I read. I know the fewer and more gradual the bends are, the better spool you will have. It's fluid dynamics. Like a water hose, start the water hose with a nozel on the end. Turn on the water, a hose that is coiled up will take noticibly longer to preasurize the hose than if it were straitened out. Kinda like a hard pipe increases spool time to max psi, because there is no rubber to stretch.

 

[GstRacer]

well with all of that said where can we get diff types of IC piping with less bends?? or one with the staight to the front mount style no around the fuse box here is a pic of mine and i also have the greddy FMIC with those pipes

 

[danielbui]

www.dejontool.com

 

[anconover]

agpturbo.com has a short route 2g kit i think. I think the SBR/kinetic kits are short route as well.

 

[GstRacer]

dude did you even go to dejon tool they have the same pipes as in my picture. I'm looking to find the short route like what anconover posted

 

[98spyderboost]

Don't people have pipe benders any more?

 

[gsx951]

Don't people have pipe benders any more?

Sure, we've got plenty of them but most DSM vendors couldn't even dream of owning that kind of equipment.

 

[DSMJim]

Unless they are severe and restrictive it mostly effects spool... I have heard it said that each 90 effects as much spool as an extra foot of piping...

Limit the number of bends and keep them gradual.

A 90deg mandrel bend is equivelant to 6 foot of piping. It however will not cause much of a restrictiction.

Nobody has proven that a short route car with the same mods is slower/faster or better spool than a long roupe piping car to my knowledge. If there is a difference its going to be small.

Lets put it this way, on most of the short route piping kits the intercooler outlet on one side is a hard 90 deg which is going to cause a lot more restriction to flow that long route piping will.

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Voila, you think that a few bends is worse then that hard 90 deg angle outta the cooler like that?

 

[MNGSX]

A 90deg mandrel bend is equivelant to 6 foot of piping. It however will not cause much of a restrictiction.:

Thanks.. I forgot the exact rule of thumb.

Nobody has proven that a short route car with the same mods is slower/faster or better spool than a long roupe piping car to my knowledge. If there is a difference its going to be small.

Lets put it this way, on most of the short route piping kits the intercooler outlet on one side is a hard 90 deg which is going to cause a lot more restriction to flow that long route piping will.

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Voila, you think that a few bends is worse then that hard 90 deg angle outta the cooler like that?

I have short route but normal endtanks w/o a hard 90.. I have a wider radius bends throught the system and kept it short and did'nt use the stock UIC path. I did'nt think those tanks like in the picture flowed well so I avoided them..

I agree that it is all about CFM flow/pressure drop.. Bends and length are like intake plenum volume... Influences spool.. I have'nt seen datalogs back to back or anything but have seen plenum comparisons... so it must work the same... Same runners more plenum = slightly more lag + same power output.

 

[danielbui]

this on is from dejon. it doesn't look like yours. look harder next time.

 

[danielbui]

dude did you even go to dejon tool they have the same pipes as in my picture. I'm looking to find the short route like what anconover posted

did you even go there. oh im sorry your right they are the same pretty red pipes. look under front mount IC.

 

[MNGSX]

Does'nt look any different too me because I cant see the IC end tanks..


When I get it dusted off in the spring I'll show my pipes. My turbo intake (dejon VPC) is upside down and the filer where the SMIC was.. It made for a much straighter shot for the UICP..

 

[tominatortwo]

The less bends and piping is better for turbo cars,
less restriction=better air flow=more air to make power,
not to push air through ells and pipe. This increases
turbo efficiency.

 

[CanadianTSi]

As long as the bends are mandrel they aren't going to be that restrictive.

Plenty of cars have gone 11's (probably faster) with a greddy style, long routed FMIC.

 

[NDgsx]

I have short route but normal endtanks w/o a hard 90.. I have a wider radius bends throught the system and kept it short and did'nt use the stock UIC path. I did'nt think those tanks like in the picture flowed well so I avoided them..

If you want a great endtank with short routing, look at Al's setup

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http://www.dvdtfab.com/2g_intercooler_kit.htm

If you want a low priced, short routed IC kit I sell the kinetic ICs at a very low price.

 

[MNGSX]

If your gonna point the inlets and outlets rearward thats how to build the tanks.

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