Rebuilding my head

[WIDSM]

My head is warped from overheating, so I'm going to rebuild it myself. I plan on putting in fp2 cams, I'm currently running a stock head. I'm going to put stainless valves in and was wondering if it's recommended to relpace the springs, retainers, guides, seals, etc.? I was planning on keeping the springs and retainers that are in there and just replacing everything else. Also should I put 3g lifters in or do people only do that to resolve ticking issues? I have a mls head gasket on there now and was considering going back to a felt one(suggestions/opinions)? I will be running 20-22psi. I am going to have the machine shop deck the head should it be hot tanked aswell, I'm not planning on porting it out although I might gasket match it. Sorry about all of the questions, normally I just go with it and end up wasting money on shit I didn't need so I figured I would ask this time. If you have anything to add or have questions feel free I am very open about this. I'm not really on a budget on this, I'm just sick of reworking things and would like to get this done right the first time. Also the head gasket, t-belt ,water pump, bs belt and such were just replaced less than 100 miles ago.

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

You can reuse the stock springs, retainers, and keepers. Inspect the springs to make sure they are all the same height and they do not have any bends to them ) ( . As for the keepers and retainers, I don't think I have ever heard of one failing so reuse those if you want to.

I would definitely replace the guides though and have the machine shop do it. Since they do need to be pressed in correctly. Then, you can also have the machine shop lap the valve seats so that when you put your new valves in they seal correctly. They will need your new valves for this so they can fit them correctly. Then, assemble it with some new valve seals and you should be good to go.

 

[pj91gsx]

new valve seals of course. I bought vitron blue ones but idk if there is much of a difference in the and stock ones. maybe get all gaskets, like intake, exhaust, valve cover. Ive never replaced my valve terrain, I just replace the valve seals and clean everything really well.

Ive never replaced guides unless they were cracked from bent valves.

 

[WIDSM]

Ok thanks guys, that'll save me a lot of money knowing that I can reuse a lot of that stuff. When I take my head off I'll check the valve seats to see if they look like they need cleaning up. I already intend on buying all new gaskets, and have bought some of them already from projects I haven't started yet.
Anyone have any opinions or suggestions on the 3g lifters, and also replacing the valve guides(yes no)?

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

You can reuse the stock springs, retainers, and keepers. Inspect the springs to make sure they are all the same height and they do not have any bends to them ) ( . As for the keepers and retainers, I don't think I have ever heard of one failing so reuse those if you want to.

I would definitely replace the guides though and have the machine shop do it. Since they do need to be pressed in correctly. Then, you can also have the machine shop lap the valve seats so that when you put your new valves in they seal correctly. They will need your new valves for this so they can fit them correctly. Then, assemble it with some new valve seals and you should be good to go.

Yes, replace the guides and get the 3g lifters. They make the valvetrain really quiet. I bought the cheap ones off EBAY from a guy for somewhere like $70. They work great!!

 

[WIDSM]

Ok, after looking through a few pages on valves, I am still very undecided. Now I was looking at Topline, and Si valves. They're cheaper than buying Ferrea, but I'm not sure on the quality and durability of them though, is it going to be a you get what you pay for type of thing? You can get the SI valves swirl polished or Nitrided, I tried to look into that more but haven't found much info on them, and do not know if it's beneficial to do that. Or should I just throw all of this out the window and just go with a set of Manely or Ferrea?

 

[All_Boost16G]

I would say use your stock valves if there still good, and then upgrade to the EVO Beehive springs that you can buy of Forced Performance. Cheaper upgrade and good parts, exspecaially if you are going with a different cam setup.

 

[WIDSM]

I would say use your stock valves if there still good, and then upgrade to the EVO Beehive springs that you can buy of Forced Performance. Cheaper upgrade and good parts, especially if you are going with a different cam setup.

Well I know that I will need to replace the valves, I just had the head off not to long ago and the valves are all caked up and burnt. The fp2 cams are rated for stock springs so I'm not sure where you are going with the beehive springs. I understand that they will be better, but the point of this thread is that I probably would have bought them but I am trying not to spend money where it isn't needed.

 

[DougR]

Evo Stuff.