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chris712vt

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Mar 27, 2006
SLC, Utah
ok, i need some real exhaust advise. I've searched around for answers but can't find what I need. There's reviews on Thermal R&D, Apexi N1, Apexi WS, Tsudo N1, Megan, etc, but everything is always about the 3" models for the 4G63s.

I need some help and advice from some 420A guys on here. can I get pictures of them installed on your dsms, or video/sound clips would be very nice! also some general information on where I can get them for good prices? and especially how did it help performance wise?

I've always loved the look of the 3" Thermal R&D, but i don't think their 2.5" model is the same, plus it's way out of my price range. The N1s are extremely common, yet I still like how they look and sound. But they too are pretty expensive. From all I've read, the WS has a canister muffler verse straight through style of the N1, plus sounds and looks closer to stock right, but does it still increase the flow and add power? And I don't know much about the Megan or others I haven't listed. (I'd rather pay 350 or less for the complete cat-back, no 475 or 550 dollar exhausts for me.)

I have the basic intake and exhaust mods minus the cat-back, it's my final step. As time goes on I'm adding things here and there, but my goal is to rebuild the bottom end as well as the head and make my own turbo kit, however that's 2-3 years away and I only want a 60mm-2.5" exhaust right now for my currently NA talon. PLEASE help me out with some quality information from your experience because I can't make my decision when all I hear about are the turbo exhausts. Thanks.
 
do you have a stock exhaust manifold or a header?just adding a cat-back will give you some performance but mainly for sound and looks. if you are handy you could build one your self for a couple hundred.summit racing sells all the bends and sizes.i think walker/dynomax make a good system.
 
Also, Question for a MOD or whoever my know. When will there actually be a FAQ list? Or if there already is where can I find it? the FAQ thread at the top of the page is just a discussion about FAQ ideas, where are the actual writups about intakes, exhausts, turbo conversions, tuning, etc? Thanks, because it will be very beneficial to hear from the guys who have been there and done it.
 
Miklaver - I have a 4-1 header right now, and I want to have a local shop fab a larger downpipe and welt it to a larger cat for me. The top section of the header I have is great, but the lower section squeezes down to between 2.25" or possibly even smaller inner diameter before it meets with the cat, and I'd like to open that whole section up as well as the cat-back.

And I tried to have a local shop make me a custom exhaust back in march, but they kept blowing me off, and didn't understand how i wanted it to be, like with the bend in the rear, and how i wanted an extra resonator or two before the straight through muffler. it just got to be too much of a pain in the ass to deal with them so i called it quits and just want to buy a nice (but as cheap as i can find) premade catback for our cars. and that reminds me i gotta sell that muffler now since i don't plan on using it. (2.5" in, 3.5" out)
 
I had an OBX cat-back on my RS and it has 2 resonators before the canister. Was droning around 4-5K RPMs but sounded mean above that and low smooth below. I liked it and the price, plus it gave me like 2 more mpg!:thumb:
 
chris712vt said:
my goal is to rebuild the bottom end as well as the head and make my own turbo kit, however that's 2-3 years away and I only want a 60mm-2.5" exhaust right now for my currently NA talon. PLEASE help me out with some quality information from your experience because I can't make my decision when all I hear about are the turbo exhausts. Thanks.
Personally, if you're that hard up for a name brand, cookie-cutter exhaust system, just bear in mind that what people say about the fitment, quality and sound of the 3" versions of name brand exhaust systems will be similar in 2.5" variations. Turbochargers affect the sound of the exhaust in a sweet, sweet way that you will not be able to duplicate with a 2GNT, especially if you remove the cat.

Quality information from my experience? Read this. If you *must* have 2.5" I.D. piping, consult this image, buy the proper 2.5" mandrel bends it would take to make the same thing from Summit for under $50 (that being a single u-bend for like $20), take the bends and your stock cat back to a local exhaust shop and ask them to use the bends you've provided to make a 2.5" version of your exhaust. I would also consider straight-piping the last section under the rear member for simplicity. Get whatever muffler you want put on it, keeping in mind that a stock-appearing dual tip muffler will both attract less police/thief/vandal attention and provide the sleeper edge in addition to actual performance.

I'm sorry to see you having such a hard time with this decision. Considering a full CAI, header, high-flow cat, and catback exhaust will likely net you less than 10whp, the real issue is cost. Get your catback done for as cheaply as you can. The GST catback sounds great to me. Right click, save as, please. Video clip of my exhaust. K&N equipped eBay shortie, Pacesetter 4-2-1, and a 33" Cherry Bomb where the cat used to be, among other mods. (azdave as camera man, az2gnt shenanigans night)

Good luck to you.
 
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