Magnus Intake Manifold = PITA

[98TsiAWD]

Originally posted by brads
Interesting install methods. I think I found a pic of one of your toys growing up. Tell me if this looks familiar:

Nope, never seen that toy? Was it one of yours since you ahve the pic?

 

[98TsiAWD]

Also just wanted to make clear that other than these NPT fitting problems, the manifold looks GREAT. Can't wait to get the car fired up with it on.

The build/welding on it is beautiful. Someone has alot of hours in practice.

Just waiting for my FMIC kit to get here now

 

[98TsiAWD]

I found a 1/16" NPT tap and 1/16" NPT plugs, This place has them: https://nerace.com/

$50 and some odd cents shipped. This manifold is getting spendy, .

Oh well, At least I have it all figured out now. As soon as the tap and plugs get here, I'll do that. Clean out the manifold real good, slap it onto the longblock and get that sucker in the car!

 

[JohnTSI]

Well it took me about 40 minutes to completly install the manifold but then again mine is a complete race setup no extra fitting etc.. The taps where not the cleanest I had seen but they did work. Only problem i had was it seemed th flage had worped in welding and too some work to get over the end studs.

 

[dre99gsx]

Magnus manifold gave me 60whp at 7300rpm (380whp to 440whp) when I first installed it a few months ago. No loss in spool or torque at 4krpm. (I have these dyno graphs on my website as well). Definately worth the upgrade.

It is a bit tricky to install on the car, especially to reach the nipples underneath. I had no problems installing 1/8th NPT and a 1/4NPT nipples. Install time was about 2 hours on my car. (including relocating coil pack and a few other things).

 

[Tevenor]

Lesson: Chase the threads on anything you get from a vendor regardless of quality before you install. This does 2 things for you

1) Makes sure that the threads are clear and clean.
2) Makes sure of what the thread pitch is.

I have never had any problems with any of the Magnus stuff, in fact quite the opposite. Everything has been right on the money. However I have bought crap from other vendors that was fucked up from the begginning and I had to fix it before installation. I won't name names but ever have a part come with bolts that weren't the right thread for the tapped holes?

 

[Dark Lightning]

Originally posted by 98TsiAWD
I retapped them at my shop

Can I ask what shop you own/work at/broke into?

Originally posted by dre99gsx
It is a bit tricky to install on the car, especially to reach the nipples underneath. I had no problems installing 1/8th NPT and a 1/4NPT nipples. Install time was about 2 hours on my car. (including relocating coil pack and a few other things).

This sounds about right. I did my install one evening without much trouble; I think finding / making a suitable throttle body elbow was the worst part of it.

Honestly if you think a few hours of your time and some tweaking is too much to ask for in exchange for 50+whp, you my friend are in the wrong hobby.

 

[Liquid Illusion]

Originally posted by dre99gsx
Magnus manifold gave me 60whp at 7300rpm (380whp to 440whp) when I first installed it a few months ago. No loss in spool or torque at 4krpm. (I have these dyno graphs on my website as well). Definately worth the upgrade.

It is a bit tricky to install on the car, especially to reach the nipples underneath. I had no problems installing 1/8th NPT and a 1/4NPT nipples. Install time was about 2 hours on my car. (including relocating coil pack and a few other things).

Dre thats awesome,

Im going to go off topic for a sec. I know you have used the fp3055 in the past a green and now a 50 trim combo from agp. What are your thoughts on the smaller fp3052. For a mostly pump gas application.

More specifically the gt37 wheel used in that turbo since I know AGP offers a similar full garret ball bearing turbo. I have been considering the agp kit and the fp3052. What are your thoughts on that wheel.

 

[Dark Lightning]

And what part of USE A PRIVATE MESSAGE OR EMAIL don't you understand? No wonder I never browse this board anymore.

 

[Liquid Illusion]

Originally posted by Dark Lightning
And what part of USE A PRIVATE MESSAGE OR EMAIL don't you understand?

Because its a subject i am sure many are interested in and can benefit from.

No wonder I never browse this board anymore.

Maybe you can continue.

 

[Dark Lightning]

Originally posted by Liquid Illusion
Because its a subject i am sure many are interested in and can benefit from.

Take it to a new thread.

 

[SHicksRUS]

Originally posted by 98TsiAWD
You my friend are a piece of work. I acutally installed HKS cams with absolutely no problems. I assembled a complete 4g63 with no problems.
You are right, installing a magnus intake shouldnt be hard.

If only I could be a moderator here and make five or six posts just to reply to the people that said mean things about me. Trying to get your post count elevated? I'm suprised that an oxygen thief like yourself became a moderator, or that Tooners tollerates your wasting of bandwidth. You could have addressed all the people who essentially flamed you in one post instead of making a bunch and increasing the headache factor here. I'm done talking now.

 

[ETTsiAWD]

You're still insisting that there's something "wrong" with the part, because your particular brand of NPT nipples didn't thread right in? Ever consider that maybe you got a "big" batch of NPT hose barbs? If the intake were tapped out to the large end of the tap right out of the box then anyone that happened to buy NPT fittings that were a little on the small side would be SOL. Most manufacturers of parts with pipe thread will shoot to be on the quarter-to-half size for exactly that reason. But I guess this is a problem with the intake, not with your lack of knowledge, OK...

And it takes exactly 15 seconds to find out the thread pitch of a nitrous nozzle. Google anyone? Or heaven forbid someone picks up a phone and calls NX or NOS! No that would be too quick and easy, it's far better to wait until someone spoonfeeds you the info and then you get the added benefit of being able to complain that it took hours or days to come by this precious nugget of information.

As far as asking dre what he thinks about a turbo he's never run... how is that informative for anyone at all? I'm sure your guess is as good as his or anyone else that hasn't run it. Bench racing at it's finest. "Well, I've run a T3/04E-60 trim so I'm qualified to tell you how a 20G runs." Why don't you just watch him eat a hot dog and then ask him if the hamburgers are any good?

 

[Liquid Illusion]

98TsiAWD:

Don't even respond to any of this juvenile troll banter. We all know what this is and where these guys are from. Good luck with the rest of the install the manifold is bad ass I know you will love it.

 

[Liquid Illusion]

Originally posted by ETTsiAWD
You're still insisting that there's something "wrong" with the part, because your particular brand of NPT nipples didn't thread right in? Ever consider that maybe you got a "big" batch of NPT hose barbs? If the intake were tapped out to the large end of the tap right out of the box then anyone that happened to buy NPT fittings that were a little on the small side would be SOL. Most manufacturers of parts with pipe thread will shoot to be on the quarter-to-half size for exactly that reason. But I guess this is a problem with the intake, not with your lack of knowledge, OK...

And it takes exactly 15 seconds to find out the thread pitch of a nitrous nozzle. Google anyone? Or heaven forbid someone picks up a phone and calls NX or NOS! No that would be too quick and easy, it's far better to wait until someone spoonfeeds you the info and then you get the added benefit of being able to complain that it took hours or days to come by this precious nugget of information.

As far as asking dre what he thinks about a turbo he's never run... how is that informative for anyone at all? I'm sure your guess is as good as his or anyone else that hasn't run it. Bench racing at it's finest. "Well, I've run a T3/04E-60 trim so I'm qualified to tell you how a 20G runs." Why don't you just watch him eat a hot dog and then ask him if the hamburgers are any good?

As far as asking dre what he thinks about a turbo he's never run... how is that informative for anyone at all?

He has made more power then just about anyone on pump gas. I know he has tried a few different agp turbo setups. Maybe one contained that wheel, maybe it didn't. Its fair to assume that a person that has made an extortionary amount of HP on pump gas. Just might have some insight on the subject of pump gas turbo selection. You dont know until you ask. What you are sure of is not my concern.

I've run a T3/04E-60 trim

Congradulations you win a hot dog and hamburger and you can watch me eat it

Bench racing at it's finest

if i have to read anymoe of your posts im sure i will be as skilled as you.

Why don't you just watch him eat a hot dog and then ask him if the hamburgers are any good?

Im sorry your parents didn't love you. Im glad out of that neglect you felt inspired to build a fast dsm. Then beat your chest on Internet dsm forums. This round you win a cookie.

 

[dre99gsx]

No harm done. But I did forget, you do need to redo a TB Elbow and possibly your upper intercooler pipe. The entire TB section sits about 1-2" lower (and may interfere with your battery). I use an odyssey battery and had no clearence problems.

On a side note, I had good success with many versions of the 50trim (AGP/Green, etc), but don't know how well the fp3052 runs. There are many people now running 420-440whp on pump using a 50trim right now. Its becoming commonplace. As Hessler said, If I haven't run it, I wouldn't know. Sorry can't help.

 

[MaineDSM]

Originally posted by 98TsiAWD
Actually I know nothing much about nitrous, hence the PLUGS, Im not using nitrous at this time.
And no Im not a plumber or anything like that, so I didnt know much about NPT fittings.

Don't take any of these guys to heart. You posted something negative about Magnus, which gives all these guys a chance to kiss Marco's ass by bashing you in various clever ways.

You'll find that most of them would put on a wedding dress and give their cherry to Marco if he would marry them.

 

[98TsiAWD]

Originally posted by SHicksRUS
If only I could be a moderator here and make five or six posts just to reply to the people that said mean things about me. Trying to get your post count elevated? I'm suprised that an oxygen thief like yourself became a moderator, or that Tooners tollerates your wasting of bandwidth. You could have addressed all the people who essentially flamed you in one post instead of making a bunch and increasing the headache factor here. I'm done talking now.

Why would I care what my post count is? And how is addressing a problem about one of our parts a waste of bandwith?
Now this information is here for the next person that comes along with these problems, they can simply search and there it is.

May I ask how your post helped anybody? Looks like you are the one adding headache factor and worthlessness to the thread.

 

[98TsiAWD]

Originally posted by MaineDSM
Don't take any of these guys to heart. You posted something negative about Magnus, which gives all these guys a chance to kiss Marco's ass by bashing you in various clever ways.

You'll find that most of them would put on a wedding dress and give their cherry to Marco if he would marry them.

Definately seems that way. I will say Marco has done great things and the Dog-Box is just simply amazing. But Im not gonna bow down to them and pretent the manifold was perfect, close however.

 

[98TsiAWD]

Originally posted by ETTsiAWD
You're still insisting that there's something "wrong" with the part, because your particular brand of NPT nipples didn't thread right in? Ever consider that maybe you got a "big" batch of NPT hose barbs? If the intake were tapped out to the large end of the tap right out of the box then anyone that happened to buy NPT fittings that were a little on the small side would be SOL. Most manufacturers of parts with pipe thread will shoot to be on the quarter-to-half size for exactly that reason. But I guess this is a problem with the intake, not with your lack of knowledge, OK...

Lol, I went to abotu 10 different stores yesterday looking at 1/8" NPT nipples. (flared and straight) and NONE, not ONE would fit. And I never saw one of the same brand. So the holes were clearly tapped too small. But they are fixed now so no big deal.

 

[Moto'freak]

as a moderator 98TsiAWD, why did you edit your first post and total changed to like a toned down post ? you should have left it alone and stand behind your word ! Its a total different post then what I read a few hours ago.

I think its sneaky and as a MOD you should be ashamed.

 

[gritsak]

i always see people having problems finding the misc fittings and parts needed to get custom intakes going..im not sure why magnus doesnt offer a complete set of fittings for even like 20-30 more (they would make a nice profit)..lots of people would be willing to pay the extra just so they dont have to go through the hassle of finding the right fittings

 

[Black95TSIawd]

98tsiawd, i'm glad you everything sorted out. PM me when u get everything up and your motor running, i have a couple of questions.

but i think you forgot to RTFM, to nabr.

 

[hellotbone]

Originally posted by DSMJim
The magnus intake made my car faster.

Magnus though hard to install, is worth it after all is said and done. I could honestly do another one now in my sleep having done it already.

I may hold you to that one day

 

[98TsiAWD]

Originally posted by Moto'freak
as a moderator 98TsiAWD, why did you edit your first post and total changed to like a toned down post ? you should have left it alone and stand behind your word ! Its a total different post then what I read a few hours ago.

I think its sneaky and as a MOD you should be ashamed.

Actually I only removed the last sentence. Which was "Not recommended by me", I decided this could be negative towards Magnus so I removed it. I sure wouldnt say I totally changed the post