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Originally posted by DeezNutsForYou
I plan on using the stock 14b, and I was woundering how much benifit this would have for me. I tried to read through all 36 pages, but I got to page 6 or 7 and started seeing double. I plan on buying dejon tool's upper ic pipe that is ment for the gm maf. If I get this will the 3" impala ss maf fit. Or will I have to get extra silicone connectors. Also I have abs and cruise control will either of these be a problem. I heard you have to relocate your cruise, but about the abs. Dejon tool's sells a 2 1/4" pipe for abs cars, and a 2 1/2" pipe for non abs. And the pipe meant for the gm maf is a 2 1/2.

Thanks for any feedback. I definetely want to get this, as I was just about the buy a standard 2 1/4" hard pipe, and I figured this way I wouldn't have to buy another pipe later.
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You will see some improvement with the 14b because the GM maf flows much more freeley than a stock 1g, hacked 1g or a 2g maf. If you are local in the area (oregon,washington) and are afraid of fit, I can fab you up some custom intercooler pipes to make anything work. The real improvement will be when you upgrade your turbo. You can run the 3" with a 2.5-3" coupler. Or the 3.5" (98 v8 camaro) maf with the couplers I have. The 3.5 can flow upto 1000 cfm.

Yes that is under my hood... :) Thanks for the complement deeznutz, it would have sounded much better if my damn exhaust leak wouldent have keept getting worse. At the ened of the run the turbo would hit full boost at 5500. It was fixxed 2 hours after the run and all is well... :)

Prior to running the MAFT i was using a 2g maf with a bypass. It was great and made power but, with the blow through setup I can feel a differance in top end. Let alone drivability is very much improved. It is very very easy to tune and right now I have my safc zero'd out.
 
I was thinking of using dejon tools uper ic pipe that is meant for the gm maf. Would you reconmend this, or would it be better to custom make some. I am kind of concernded about the pipe fitting because I have antilock brakes. So if the dejon pipe won't fit I'll defentely give you a call, but for $200 I can't go wrong. What exactly can you control, I read what everyone said you could do with it, but what does that all mean. I have no safc, and have never tuned any part of my air of fuel system. Also could I get 550 injectors with this and not get an afc, that would kick ass.

anyway thanks for the help. And buy the way how much do you charge for some custom pipes, because that would be pretty sweet also. I will also be needing a lower ic pipe. And what brand of downpipe would you recomend. I want to go with a 2.5" pipe and 3" after the flex section, to a 3" testpipe, and a 3" cat back with a 40 series flowmaster.

thanks again for all the help, I love getting valuable information, and not just what some kid thinks about some mod, without knowing anything about it. (which seems to happen fairly often on this site.) but mostly good info.
 
Thanks for everyone's input all along. Nope it wasn't the injector being overran or bov tube. I bumped up BASE to 6 (650cc) and leaned out MID and WOT some more. Bamn fuel cut solved. Trims are now 127%, 100%, and 139%. Don't even care what they read as long as there's no WOT knock activity. Thanks.
 
I'm looking for the correct wire to use as a RPM signal for both the translator and a Profrom shift light. I have a 1990 Turbo which is different from the 91+ first gen's. According to the pinouts from vfaq.com it appears that Pin 21 looks to be the correct wire on the ECU. Although is there anyplace under the hood I could use. I spoke with Mike from Ramchargers and he told me pin #58, although it appears that is for the 2G cars.

Any help would be great!
Joe
 
This isn't that hard of a question, and Ramchargers failed to help me. If I don't get some help here my car will sit and I will be thanking the MAF translator for my car not running.
Someone with a 1990 has had to put a translator on their car!
 
Originally posted by Joe's_GSX
This isn't that hard of a question, and Ramchargers failed to help me. If I don't get some help here my car will sit and I will be thanking the MAF translator for my car not running.
Someone with a 1990 has had to put a translator on their car!
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Try here with archive search and then question:

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dsmtranslator/
 
your car should run good without the wire hooked to anything. but you can hook it to one of the wires from the cam angle sensor. I don't know which one off the top of my head, and I don't have my shop manual CD with me to look it up. maybe someone else can help.

bearman
 
Originally posted by DeezNutsForYou
I was thinking of using dejon tools uper ic pipe that is meant for the gm maf. Would you reconmend this, or would it be better to custom make some. I am kind of concernded about the pipe fitting because I have antilock brakes. So if the dejon pipe won't fit I'll defentely give you a call, but for $200 I can't go wrong. What exactly can you control, I read what everyone said you could do with it, but what does that all mean. I have no safc, and have never tuned any part of my air of fuel system. Also could I get 550 injectors with this and not get an afc, that would kick ass.

anyway thanks for the help. And buy the way how much do you charge for some custom pipes, because that would be pretty sweet also. I will also be needing a lower ic pipe. And what brand of downpipe would you recomend. I want to go with a 2.5" pipe and 3" after the flex section, to a 3" testpipe, and a 3" cat back with a 40 series flowmaster.

thanks again for all the help, I love getting valuable information, and not just what some kid thinks about some mod, without knowing anything about it. (which seems to happen fairly often on this site.) but mostly good info.
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Right now I am running 660's and have my AFC completley zero'd out. I see no reason why you can tune only with the maft, and the 1/4 mile times tell you this also. If you want call Dejon, and ask them if their pipe's will fit with a 1g abs car. If not or you are worried at all I can fab them up and have them powdercoated for you. We would work something out on the intercooler piping, it should be close to or under dejon's price.
If you buy a name brand downpipe I would go with buschur. But, if you want I can build one for you and save $$$. Shortly we are going to start building o2 eliminators and equil lenght headers. If I were you I would stay away from the flowmaster, they are restrictive, I had one on my car and switched over to dynomax, my ass dyno felt a signifigant differance. I have been there done most all of that. :thumb:
 
hey guys, ill be recieving mine in a few days, cant wait to get er installed! anything i should be aware of apon install on my 90?
thanks for the heads up fellas. i cant wait to feel this thing.
 
you can use a GM 3" MAF with a MAF-Translator in conjunction with your safc. I am tuning with the maft and keeping the safc in for race gas tuning.
 
damn so i mighta spent 350 on the limited edition safc 2 for nothing?
what do i set the little switches on the translator to? do my safc settings stay the same? and one last important question. do i change the "type" on my safc from karman to hotwire? or leave it the way it is?
 
Originally posted by gsxstac
damn so i mighta spent 350 on the limited edition safc 2 for nothing?
what do i set the little switches on the translator to? do my safc settings stay the same? and one last important question. do i change the "type" on my safc from karman to hotwire? or leave it the way it is?
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No, if you tune finer than most a SAFC is not wasted.
Switches: 2g,whatever size MAF, Do use AUX? y/n.
Only use the same settings if you are not tuning at all with the translator and even then it will probably change.
Stay Karman because that's what the translator outputs.
Scott
 
What are the biggest injectors someone has used with the MAFT so far? I see plenty of 660 but a friend is going to try some 7's and was curious if the translator is working with them. I know they say it is good to like 1200 but i want actual people using them.
 
What are some of the settings for the maft you guys are using? I have 680 injectors and so far I 've gotten as far as to tune the base setting and yes car backfires at the upper rpm. Just wanted to get some idea what settings might work and yes I know every dsm is different.
 
After all the money and as far as I have gotten I have been fumbled by the damn reducers. They wont go on for the life of me. 2 1/2'' to 3'' from RRE My hands hurt my legs hurt and I have this bad headache now. I have heated greased sanded the maf a little bit and even cut the inside of the reducers down some to try and get it to fit but it wont pass the first hump on the maf the harder i try and push it onto it the more the reducer wont go on and then slides sideways and the other side pops off*dies* Tommarow I am going to take a dremel to the outside of the gm maf. Drive me insane aww.
 
Then the maf will have a potential of cracking. If you dont want to mess around with that get a set of couplers from me and trade your 3" for a 3.5". Fits like a glove. :)

Twoboost are you running a logger? It should take no more than a half hour to tune the translator. I have my main switch for the injector size leaned out 3 more clicks than 660's. Yes I know real technical term... :) My base setting is at 0
 
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