LS-1 MAF translator vs ARC-2/ VPC

[snoopnoon]

The same thing with me, I will be making my own IC piping using my pipe bender. Just curiouse what gauge steel you guys use. I dont want it to heat up and warp but on the same note, i dont want to have like 3/4 inch thick steel.

 

[talonted_one]

well if you guys are making your own uppper ic pipes make me one too.

 

[pilotleston]

Originally posted by talonted_one
well here is some help for you...

look at the strut towers, they are too vertical to be a 2g.

the fuse box is not the same as a 2G.

the engine could be in a 2G as we all know but it is a 1g motor and intake manifold and CAS.

the cruise control box is from a 1G.

I hope this helps you out.

Thanks a lot, but I meant that I couldn´t recognise the separate UIP (they have an image of a separate piece) as of a 1G piece.
When looking at a 1G engine bay I can! ; )
So I just thought that they just put the 1G image to show how it´d fit as both are pretty similar, right? (in the matter uf UIPs).

 

[champ_168]

Man this thread has been prretty slow recently...

I dont know if anyone remembers me with my previous translator problem...If not you can find my prervious post HERE

Basically I had 660cc injectors with a 3.5 MAS in a draw through setup...and my base setting was at "4"(550cc)...My car ran decent there...Mike confirmed that its just settings and not all cars being equal setting will vary...

But I could not accept i was the only one with 660cc set on "4" base when most others said "6" is too rich and "8" is just right...how couold i bee set 20% different from my fellow dsmers...I would accept 10% differrece...but at 20% I a big loser....

Basically i looked back at my logs and saw...my Low Fuel Trim was at 105...and my mid and high trims were at 114...which was cool with me...

i looked at a few mor logs...low was still 105...but hi and mid moved to 81....Maxeed out rich up top? Yes...but i could not lean things out on teh MAFT no matter what...tons of knock and problems...no matter how slo i went....

So I Tossed on my 2g mas everything was perfect...but the MAFT is a proven product all over and these ramcharger guys are pretty respectable...how can the product be flaw?

So I get to be the first test subject to fit the Dejon Blow Thru pipe on my 1g w/ ABS Blow Thru Pipe from Dejon Tool...Might I add is another great guy...the pipe was a REAL tight fit...I will have pictures soon to post...If any one is interested....

Anyways Pipe comes...sweet as can bee...install the pipe set everything up with a 3" Mas...sh*t...guess what? can only set 4 base on with out problems in this set up too...

I think to my self why wouold the hi and mid trims be 81...yet my 02 at .88 at wot? My 02 sensoor was brand new...ccant be...

To Finish my story I changed my Already Brand New OEM o2 sensor (with only 1000 miles on it) with a Brand New Denso o2 "Plug and Play" o2 sensor (supposedly last better thru leaded fuels)

Starrted the car...the sensor was gooing off the hook...crazy cycling...i was so rrich my lo trim went to 81 and my o2 went to .90 and stayed there at IDLE... so i tuned out the car...

And if you havent guessed it yet...My base setting is at "7" or 15% leaner than before....my car drives like a dream....feul trims are a tad bit rich....still needs a bit of tuning...but damn what a differnce...

Stupid faulty OEM crap...cant even trust new crap these days...

Im guessing the MAFT is so much more dynamic than a 2g Mas....cacnt rerally thihnk of a reason why the 2g mas ran so mucch betterr with worse conditions....

so for those of you out there may not apply to all...a few tips before start tunning with the MAFT...

1) make sure your base timing is set correctly...
2) make sure your Knock Sensor, o2 sensor, and coolant temp sensor are all in spec....and functioning properly....(get a Multimeter)
3)make sure you have no boost leaks...especially the TB shaft Seals....

So thanks to everyone...you got suckered into reading this long post....when all yall coulda done was jsut read the last paragraph...


On A slightly off topic note...t3/t4 50 trim is what i have...Does Any One have a 60 Trim? Does it perform as well on pump gas as a 50 trim?

I hope i didnt leave anythinng out...and that my post makes sense...



Thanks

 

[bottledbird68]

Finally got mine in and installed. I love it!!! What a noticable difference. I went draw through to make the install easier. Before I was getting knock counts up around 40 over 5k rpm. After the install I was getting 6 around 6800 and 1 or less everywhere else. All just by plugging it in and not turning anything. The car is a totally different animal now, can't wait to get to the track. Thank you Ramchargers, it was well worth the wait

 

[Tallen]

good to see you found the problem champ!

oh and BTW, it is easy to run the IC pipes in the stock location. all i used was some stock rbber hose and cut up my RRE UICP

 

[champ_168]

Originally posted by Tallen
good to see you found the problem champ!

oh and BTW, it is easy to run the IC pipes in the stock location. all i used was some stock rbber hose and cut up my RRE UICP

Well I Have a 92 AWD W/abs...I noticed you have a 95...Not sure i can help you there...but...
The Pipe I got was a extremely tight fit...Im talking about milimeters...but it fits with in stock location path...

I was gonna hack one of my beautiful UICPs...but then i thought...if i could unload one for 160-180...why cut it...
What i was gonna do was just order some 2.75" mandrel bends flare the ends as much as i could...and fab up a nasty hack...but then i unloaded one of my UICP for a great price...And I decided to pay dejon for the convienence....

I am not sure dejon has a pipe for 2g stock location plumbing...although maybe if your running a FMIC with short piping i think you can use his UICP for short FMIC piping? haha if that made sense...Just call him...

 

[Tallen]

?? i wasnt asking for advise, i was just stating that i was able to run it thru the stock location to the stock IC location with the MAF installed blowthru thanks thou

 

[set3422]

OTE]Originally posted by 95GSXracer
I Was neer able to find a 2.5" anything in plumbing parts. But because the PVC/ABS tubing is so damn think, a 2" will easily stretch over a 2.5" The 3" will have to squash down to 3" metal tubing quite a bit. This will be prefectly fine for preturbo, but not for blow through. For one the 3" part that is squashed down will likely blow off, and 2 the rubber couplers HD sells cant take the heat of post turbo air. But they do work beautifully for intake pipes [/QUOTE]



here's the part # 70923 for Dayco 3" to 2.5" hose reducer. They're like $10 for one. These hoses are HD for high temp operation conditions. They designed for operating coolant as high as 300 deg f, so it would be an overkill for flowing air.

 

[jazzyjay]

I have not connected the translator to the car yet,but have a questions. Senerio:
Fact: I am running a eprom ecu that compenstaes for 550cc injector.
Fact: I will be using 720cc injector.
What settings on the translator will I use to tune this car in

 

[Ramchargers]

I would start at -20% on the base. And tune from there
Mike

 

[eclipse2via]

That is highly individualized between cars but I would start at base 5 in your car. Idle is trial and error to get stable low trim on my car. Luck, Scott

 

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by eclipse2via
That is highly individualized between cars but I would start at base 5 in your car. Idle is trial and error to get stable low trim on my car. Luck, Scott

Here's a noobish question, what is the low trim supposed to be at for a % on the datalogger? I'm new at this tuning thing and have lots of questions. Can anybody direct me to a good read on fuel trim and what exactly does it mean? So far according to the 1/4 mile feature on my turbo timer I've shaved off 6 tenths with my rudimentary tuning skills but I still don't quite understand what everything means or does? Love the translator, reccomend it to anyone who is even thinking about it And as far as accuracy of the timer I'm comparing timer time to timer time so I think the drop in times is a safe assumption

 

[eclipse2via]

Originally posted by bottledbird68
Here's a noobish question, what is the low trim supposed to be at for a % on the datalogger? I'm new at this tuning thing and have lots of questions. Can anybody direct me to a good read on fuel trim and what exactly does it mean?

100% is ideal on all trims. WOT is different, it ignores the O2 sensor. Try here:

http://www.vfaq.com/TMO/Tuning-Tips.htm

 

[bottledbird68]

Originally posted by eclipse2via


100% is ideal on all trims. WOT is different, it ignores the O2 sensor. Try here:

http://www.vfaq.com/TMO/Tuning-Tips.htm

Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for

 

[set3422]

Ok due to high volume of people asking where to get these hoses. I'm going to bring it flat out. You get them from Autozone or Napa Truck Center. Autozone wants $18. Don't know on Napa. I got them from a local truck stop for $12 with tax included.

 

[Boostn4]

Does this dayco reducer look anything like the fernco reducers? With big transitions and a possibility of the seams breaking under boost?

 

[set3422]

These hoses are HD for high temp operation conditions. They designed for operating coolant as high as 300 deg f, so it would be an overkill for flowing air.

The fernco ones are crap because they don't have any reinforcements in between layers.

Originally posted by Boostn4
Does this dayco reducer look anything like the fernco reducers? With big transitions and a possibility of the seams breaking under boost?

 

[hukster00]

just wodering if i need to do any extra settings on the translator if i wona make it blow through, and would i have to take out the mesh inside the maf ?

thanks,

 

[azteck2]

Just a small question here. I just installed my MAFT and I don't know what dip switch #4 should be at? What is the diffrence between FLAT and Contoured AUX fuel mode? Also, what is the purple trigger wire, and what do you connect it to?

 

[eclipse2via]

Originally posted by azteck2
Just a small question here. I just installed my MAFT and I don't know what dip switch #4 should be at? What is the diffrence between FLAT and Contoured AUX fuel mode? Also, what is the purple trigger wire, and what do you connect it to?

If you don't have nitrous or h20 injection the switch should be off. Same with the purple wire it triggers the aux fuel mode. With flat aux fuel it puts out the signal for x amount of airflow at all rpms, contoured is variable. Scott

 

[eclipse2via]

Originally posted by hukster00
just wodering if i need to do any extra settings on the translator if i wona make it blow through, and would i have to take out the mesh inside the maf ?

thanks,

No
No

 

[smokehouse_83]

Has anyone else bought those dayco reducers and had trouble fitting them over their maf? I had to hack the crap out of mine to get them on and I think they leak so now I need to know if theres a way to get them on?

Drew

 

[set3422]

is it for 3" or 3.5" maf? 2.5" to 3" dayco reducer requires no hacking.

Originally posted by smokehouse_83
Has anyone else bought those dayco reducers and had trouble fitting them over their maf? I had to hack the crap out of mine to get them on and I think they leak so now I need to know if theres a way to get them on?

Drew

 

[smokehouse_83]

I ordered the ones with the part number you gave out, and I have a 3inch mas from the v6 gm cars. When you put yours on did they slide right on? Or did you have to work on it to get them to fit? I could not get them on I tried for an hour.