long rod stroker problems

[jbeaton9292]

Ok so i have a motor that i was gonna do 2.3l stroker but now have decided a 2.0 is better for my needs i had only got the pistons and block machined so no hige loss i was reading u can do a longrod stroker which is just a 2.0l i was thinking this is cheaper than starting fresh being pistons are not cheap so i set out to find some rods i cant find any 156mm rods for a 6 bolt

So here is my question does anyone know where i can find some of these 156mm rods in 6 bolt please help or make suggestions any help is good

 

[92AWDHX40]

I would pm bogus he would be able to answer that question fairly quickly.

 

[jbeaton9292]

I would pm bogus he would be able to answer that question fairly quickly.

I messaged him and hopfully he has my answer i really dont wanna have to buy new pistons and then get my block redone to match the pistons that would suck

 

[92AWDHX40]

Well youlll know soon.

 

[lasthope05]

I know off the top of my head Manley, RnR, and Oliver have and make them.

Are you looking for budget $300 rods?

 

[pauleyman]

If the pistons have already been fitted you're still going to go back to the machne shop.

 

[jbeaton9292]

If the pistons have already been fitted you're still going to go back to the machne shop.

All i had done was the block decked bored to match pistons

I know off the top of my head Manley, RnR, and Oliver have and make them.

Are you looking for budget $300 rods?

And yes if possible i dont want to spend a ton on rods i was hoping something like scat or eagle prices but forged and proven

 

[SonySlave]

If you were using a 7-bolt then you could use a cheap set of 156mm Manley H-beam rods but since you're running a 6-bolt, you're a little more limited on options. Manley only builds an off-the-shelf 156mm I-beam rod for a 6-bolt and they're nearly twice as expensive as the H-beams. Any company will build you a set of 156mm rods but you're going to pay a bunch. A new set of $450-$500 2.0L pistons will be cheaper in the end unless you have to get the block re-machined, then the $650-$700 the 156mm rods will cost you may just even out. You could always find a decent used set of forged pistons on any of the forums for cheap. Here are a few available on classifieds here:

forged pistons for sale!!! - DSM Classifieds
wiseco hd .20 over pistons - DSM Classifieds

 

[NB4G63T]

R&R makes a nice 6 bolt rod 156mm that would mate up nice with those stroker pistons. I run aluminum but you can run either steel or aluminum.

 

[jbeaton9292]

I seen too i need 21mm wrist pin can u have pistons machined i dont see why not but figured i could ask and if i did where could i get just wrist pins

R&R makes a nice 6 bolt rod 156mm that would mate up nice with those stroker pistons. I run aluminum but you can run either steel or aluminum.

 

[NB4G63T]

What pistons do you currently have? I would just get the piston you need for your application, you don't want to machine nothing out of that area on the piston IMO

 

[jbeaton9292]

What pistons do you currently have? I would just get the piston you need for your application, you don't want to machine nothing out of that area on the piston IMO

I have ross 20 over 9.0:1 2.3l pistons

 

[NB4G63T]

Well if they don't have the size wrist pin you want id sell them and get wiseco HD or whatever you decide.
Basically I wouldn't cut any corners in the rotating assembley.

 

[jbeaton9292]

Well if they don't have the size wrist pin you want id sell them and get wiseco HD or whatever you decide.
Basically I wouldn't cut any corners in the rotating assembley.

Yeah thats ###### gonna be what happens if someone knows where i can get 156 rods 21mm pin and 6 bolt please tell me

 

[lasthope05]

We told you. You just don't like the price. RnR, Oliver, Pauter, Manley... You need to pay to play. MAP has some Howard aluminum rod for $500+ right now also. What more do you want?

 

[jbeaton9292]

We told you. You just don't like the price. RnR, Oliver, Pauter, Manley... You need to pay to play. MAP has some Howard aluminum rod for $500+ right now also. What more do you want?

Those are 22mm pins is all i found

 

[RvlutionMtrsprt]

Call mike at r and r, he will make your rods to whatever spec you want. I have ordered plenty of 6 bolt 156mm 21mm pin rods from them, its really not a problem.

 

[lasthope05]

You need to call them all up and tell them exactly what you want and they will make them custom.

 

[RvlutionMtrsprt]

It's a standard 6 bolt 2.0 long rod. Nothing custom about it.

 

[white92talontsi]

If you are using the same 2.3 stroker pistons and decide to do the 2.0 long rod you will lose around a full point of compression.

 

[jbeaton9292]

If you are using the same 2.3 stroker pistons and decide to do the 2.0 long rod you will lose around a full point of compression.

Why is this

 

[white92talontsi]

Why is this

Because you are putting a piston in an engine that was designed for a 100mm stroke on a 88mm stroke crankshaft.

 

[jbeaton9292]

Because you are putting a piston in an engine that was designed for a 100mm stroke on a 88mm stroke crankshaft.

Yes but the piston is made for 100mm because of the 6mm differance on the piston which im now adding to the rod making it the same stroke as a standard 2.0 again

 

[white92talontsi]

Yes but the piston is made for 100mm because of the 6mm differance on the piston which im now adding to the rod making it the same stroke as a standard 2.0 again

You are not changing the stroke in a long rod configuration. The only way you can change the stroke is with the crankshaft.

 

[jbeaton9292]

You are not changing the stroke in a long rod configuration. The only way you can change the stroke is with the crankshaft.

Well idk im not seeing how it will lower compression i would see lower compression if i used stroker piston standard rods and standard crank