I just ordered mt Victory Performance FMIC

[CBgst]

Originally posted by marksae


What size is the lower ic pipe? Is it the same as the turbo outlet elbow?

BTW, do you have pics of the IC installed?

I'm not sure on the size but it is bigger than the turbo outlet. I don't have pics yet because I have not installed it yet. I'll be starting on it in a few hours. I still haven't decided what to do with the elbow on the turbo yet. I was going to cut it off and use a 90 degree coupling like Larry but there won't be a bead to keep coupling from blowing off. I was just going to use a peice of radiator hose since the only way to get a coupling would be to order one. I have to call FP tomarrow to see if I have to take the compresure housing off to have it welded ( I'm affraid the heat will mess up something else). If so I'm gonna try the coupling bacause I don't have the tools to take the compressor side off. I'll keep ya'll posted though. Anyone got an idea on what to do with that outlet?

 

[Skeletor]

This sucks. I'm getting my 1g kit this week. If I have to screw around with all this #@%#@%#@%#@% I'm going to be pissed.

 

[larryd]

all what stuff??

 

[Kevin Jewer]

If the elbos is facing the drivers side, as most are, then you are all set. The only time they face the other way is for top to bottom setups, or kits that connect to stock piping. This kit is niether. I too have an elbow facing the stock IC location now, but I cant just turn it because its 2" to 2", and the VP kit uses 2.5" piping. So you will need a 2" to 2.5" reducer/elbow. A silicon one is about 40 bucks from vendors that carry them. A radiator hose is about 8 bucks if you can find one int he right configurtation. I dont think thats very likely though...

 

[CBgst]

Originally posted by 95GSXracer
If the elbos is facing the drivers side, as most are, then you are all set. The only time they face the other way is for top to bottom setups, or kits that connect to stock piping. This kit is niether. I too have an elbow facing the stock IC location now, but I cant just turn it because its 2" to 2", and the VP kit uses 2.5" piping. So you will need a 2" to 2.5" reducer/elbow. A silicon one is about 40 bucks from vendors that carry them. A radiator hose is about 8 bucks if you can find one int he right configurtation. I dont think thats very likely though...

The kit comes with a reducer so there is no need to buy one. I haven't got to install it yet but I'll let ya'll know how it goes. I haven't figured out what I'm going to do with the elbow yet. I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

This sucks.


I'm getting my 1g kit this week. If I have to screw around with all this #@%#@%#@%#@% I'm going to be pissed.

You don't have the eldow on your turbo if your 1st gen so you don't have anything to worry about.

 

[Kevin Jewer]

The elbow I am using is rubber, so the reducer in the kit wont help me... Perhaps I could just get a cast Al 2" elbow from RRE and attach it to the turbo outlet with a 2" coupler for now. Then when I have the turbo off for other reasons get it welded on... Then I could just use that reducer included in the kit either way.

 

[marksae]

Originally posted by 95GSXracer
The elbow I am using is rubber, so the reducer in the kit wont help me... Perhaps I could just get a cast Al 2" elbow from RRE and attach it to the turbo outlet with a 2" coupler for now. Then when I have the turbo off for other reasons get it welded on... Then I could just use that reducer included in the kit either way.

That's pretty weak that you have to go through and buy all this misc hardware to make this supposedly complete "kit" to make it work. After paying over 1100 bux, I'd expect to have all the necessary important parts to install it.

 

[crtalon]

What the hell are you people talking about??

Do you not know #@%#@%#@%#@% about FMIC's? If I was going to spend over $1000 on a product that I really didn't know the basics of I would be worried.

Ummmmm, where's all this misc. hardware that's missing? Last I checked everything is there that I need.

If you use the stock IC routing you have to either take off the compressor housing to chop off the elbow and have it re-welded facing the driver's side or just chop off the elbow and use a silicone elbow of some sort (Baker Precision or RRE).

Sorry people, this isn't exactly a newbie mod. It's futher down the 'mod' list. It just gets more complicated when you go further into the mods.

So, stop #@%#@%#@%#@%#@%in' and just plan out your mods (you know, RESEARCH).

Peace,
Bruce

 

[Kevin Jewer]

Its not so easy to plan when all you have to go on is a small pic of the pipes that are included. Its even harder to "plan" when I bought my turbo setup for one IC, then I change to another style entirely. Not to mention that it was nearly IMPIOSSIBLE to get a reply from the vendor or the supplier for nearly two months while I waited not even knowing if this thing was being built. I thought my kit went the way of the spoolinup kits in all honesty. Now its "Surpise! its shipping this week" and the ensueing mad scrable to get the parts together now. My car is a daily driver so I cant simply take the turbo off and get an elbow welded on. We are all simply brainstorming different ways to make our particular setups work with this kit. Which is what I believe these forums are setup to facilitate. You my friend, are a tool. Thanks anyway for the input

 

[larryd]

so no pics yet huh

 

[marksae]

Originally posted by crtalon
What the hell are you people talking about??

If you use the stock IC routing you have to either take off the compressor housing to chop off the elbow and have it re-welded facing the driver's side or just chop off the elbow and use a silicone elbow of some sort (Baker Precision or RRE).

Well sh!t.. at least come w/ the freakin' elbow that i need to bring to the shop and get welded. The majority of turbos sold by dsm vendors have their outlets facing down. Why's it so hard to cater to the MAJORITY of the DSM market?? That's what I don't understand..

And not everyone is so good at welding aluminum.. Call me anal, but I wouldn't want any a$$ lookin' welds under the hood of my car.

The solution here is simple. Just start the pipe routing off w/ a 90 deg 2.5" pipe. A 2" to 2.5" reducer should connect the turbo outlet to the first pipe. Buschur's been doing this for years on his 1g kits. IRC uses the same piping scheme for their 1g and 2g kits. IMO, the VPE kit would be the best one on the market if their first pipe had a 90 deg bend.

 

[KenTSIII]

I have thermalflex 2" to 2.5" transition elbows in stock if anyone might be interested in going that route. I searched long & hard for these... & ended up getting them custom made by thermalflex. Due to the lack of availability these cost me a pretty penny... so I need to get $45 each for them (this is only 10% over cost). Also they only come in blue... I had no choice in the color dept.

 

[BatmanGSX]

I have a black 2"-2.5" 90* silicon elbow. I don't feel like posting a whole ad for it but I will sell it for $50. (you don't even want to know how much it was new). It's also a Thermaflex I think.

Just cut your elbow off with a hack saw, smooth it with a dremel and then BUY MY ELBOW! It's black. You know you want it, stop messing with the truth.

 

[CBgst]

Originally posted by larryd
so no pics yet huh

Nope I've been working like crazy so I haven't got a chance to install yet but you can bet it will be on by this weekend because I'm hoping to hit the track( IF the weather permits).

 

[crtalon]

"Its even harder to "plan" when I bought my turbo setup for one IC, then I change to another style entirely. Not to mention that it was nearly IMPIOSSIBLE to get a reply from the vendor or the supplier for nearly two months while I waited not even knowing if this thing was being built".

That I can understand. As for VP's little pic of the set-up, that's what a telephone is for.

You my friend, are a tool.

Low blows are always nice. Grow up

Call me anal, but I wouldn't want any a$$ lookin' welds under the hood of my car.

To be honest with you it really doesn't look that bad. When I received my turbo from DSM-perf, they forgot to put an elbow on. When I sent the compressor housing back, they re-welded facing the wrong side. I had a local welding shop re-do the work (~$30). Any good welder will do the job in about 20 min and should shave off the excess weld. It looked clean.

I wasn't trying to be an ass with my post below, I was trying to state that I didn't understand how some people had no clue that they would need to make a change to their compressor housing of some sort.

As for pics, soon.....

Later

 

[Kevin Jewer]

Originally posted by crtalon
That I can understand. As for VP's little pic of the set-up, that's what a telephone is for.

Try leaving for work at 530 pm, and getting home at 9am... And then trying to sleep when the rest of the world is awake. I dont use my phone much I'm going to take up Ken on his offer with those silicon elbows. Thats exactly what I need, and the point of this thread. To come to a simple cost effective solution. And I thank Ken for providing that. For me at least, its problem solved.

 

[crtalon]

I was going to cut it off and use a 90 degree coupling like Larry but there won't be a bead to keep coupling from blowing off.

This was also my concern.

It looks like this is how it goes:

No welding:

Proson't have to remove comp. housing. Use rubber elbow from IRC

Cons: No bead (chance of coupler blowing off)
expensive elbow($50 +s/h)
no ugly weld?

Welding:

Pro: Comp. housing has bead (less chance of coupler blowing off)

Cons: Have to take off Comp. housing
Pay welder ($20-30)

Have fun people

 

[crtalon]

FYI, I just realized DSM-Performance has the 2" 90 degree turbo elbows (not the rubber couplers) for $19. Of course this only for people that have their comp. housings facing straight down and want to go the welding route.

Later

 

[larryd]

Originally posted by CBgst


Nope I've been working like crazy so I haven't got a chance to install yet but you can bet it will be on by this weekend because I'm hoping to hit the track( IF the weather permits).

cool.. cant wait to see pics.

 

[CBgst]

I'm off Friday and Saturday so when I get off work tomarrow I'll get started on it. I should be done by Friday afternoon ( depending on the shop that is going to weld the elbow ). Does anyone know how hard it is to take the comp housing off of a big 28 ( t-25 )? I just can't afford to break anything and there aren't any local shops that can do it for me. I decided to get it welded so I won't have to worry about it later. The only thing that might slow me is getting the housing off.