HIDs into angel eyes?

[justnobody]

hey whats up everyone? .. anyway i bought a eclipse(obviously) and it came with projector angel eyes headlights, my question is can i buy a HID kit and it'll work? my friend told me it wouldnt cause something would melt? .. idk .. i was gonna buy some stock headlights but yea $400 for a new set is pretty crazy .. and no junkyards around here have any for sale ..

 

[RWKustoms]

hey whats up everyone? .. anyway i bought a eclipse(obviously) and it came with projector angel eyes headlights, my question is can i buy a HID kit and it'll work? my friend told me it wouldnt cause something would melt? .. idk .. i was gonna buy some stock headlights but yea $400 for a new set is pretty crazy .. and no junkyards around here have any for sale ..

Yeah, you can buy a HID kit and it will work fine. However, it is illegal but is much better than having them installed in your stock headlight housings which would produce more glare and be a nuisance to other drivers on the road. The projectors that you have would cut down some of that glare but would still be illegal and should give a good light output. Since you have aftermarket projectors then your bulbs are most likely H1's or H3's.

At one point in time I had this same setup (projectors and Ebay HID kit) and nothing ever melted but it was just temporary until I did my retrofit setup which will be a "night and day" difference when compared.

And also, you should be able to get stock headlights for way cheaper than $400. Check Ebay and the classifieds on here, normal prices usually run between $50 and $200 depending on condition.

 

[poonman]

RWK you say there illegal,huh i did not know that, i have a question though. i was going to get an HID kit for mine and i have stock headlights 95 eclipse, you would recomend getting the projection first THEN the HID kit correct?

 

[RWKustoms]

RWK you say there illegal,huh i did not know that, i have a question though. i was going to get an HID kit for mine and i have stock headlights 95 eclipse, you would recomend getting the projection first THEN the HID kit correct?

Ever heard of that term "off road use only"? Well, if and when you buy a set you'll see it on the box. Cops never bothered me though when I had that setup, I think it just has to do with your state and how strict they are. As I said, if you buy a HID kit say for your 9006 lo beams and install it in your stock headlight housings then the amount of glare will be tremendous. I'm sure you've seen your local Honda boys all over the place with them installed like that because I have and it is very annoying when they pull up behind you and you try looking in your rear view mirrors. I would highly recommend a retrofit though if time and money is available.

Most would recommend going with Silverstar bulbs though until you have the money/time/skills to do a proper retrofit.

 

[justnobody]

what materials would i need to get it to retrofit, .. what i get a bmw or audi or whatever vehicle lens and put it where my projector is? .. eh confused ..

 

[InfiniteGSX]

I have HID's in my stock housings and I haven't been pulled over, thank god... but he's right, there is alot of glare. I had my friend drive my car down the block and I got in his car, and headed for him, he turned around and drove the opposite direction towards me as if it were just some random car, so we could test the light... and they were bright... I keep getting people flashing me to turn off my highs... little do they know I have 55w 3000k (amberish) HID's in my high beams... so I just flash them back to let them know that those are my dims...

 

[SharpHID]

HIDs are illegal for public road use in the US unless the state specifies otherwise.

Projectors are definately a good upgrade if you are thinking of using HIDs. The cut offs on projectors are much sharper and will more effectively use the higher lumen output of the HIDs. If you install HIDs in any housing that originally had a halogen bulb you will almost certainly need to re-aim your lights due to the HID bulb being longer than stock. Depending on the quality of the reflector lens you have you can produce great output and light coverage with reflector housings.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

Yeah, but so is modifying your car! Exhausts are Illigal, do you put an exhaust on your car? ... Neons are illigal, how many ricers with neons do you see (I like neons!). My car has Rear fog lights... they are illigal here in the US... but I use them...

They can't hold a case against you for having HID's in a court of law. And even if they tried, just go buy some cheap oem bulbs, install them temp, take a picture, keep the recipit and your done... keep the photo for future just incase. Problem solved!

 

[red_devil]

Yeah, but so is modifying your car! Exhausts are Illigal, do you put an exhaust on your car? ... Neons are illigal, how many ricers with neons do you see (I like neons!). My car has Rear fog lights... they are illigal here in the US... but I use them...

They can't hold a case against you for having HID's in a court of law. And even if they tried, just go buy some cheap oem bulbs, install them temp, take a picture, keep the recipit and your done... keep the photo for future just incase. Problem solved!

In some states no, but it has been a big subject in saftey and they will most likely be banned in the future. Europe are cracking down on this much harder. Rear fog lights are not illigal in the US, most high end cars have them but must only be a single light.

I posted this in another fourm but here it is again
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/videos/featuresvideos/204742/xenon_test.html

 

[SharpHID]

Yeah, but so is modifying your car! Exhausts are Illigal, do you put an exhaust on your car? ... Neons are illigal, how many ricers with neons do you see (I like neons!). My car has Rear fog lights... they are illigal here in the US... but I use them...

They can't hold a case against you for having HID's in a court of law. And even if they tried, just go buy some cheap oem bulbs, install them temp, take a picture, keep the recipit and your done... keep the photo for future just incase. Problem solved!

I couldn't agree more! My car is modified with exhaust and all. Ironically my buddy has a bone stock 1995 BMW M5 and he got ticketed for a loud exhaust! . Threw it out in court obviously.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

I had a small whistle out of my GS's exhaust.. common known problem for a GS... just and anoyance... I got a ticket for loud exhaust/modified exhaust... and while he was writing me the ticket... cars that would pop your ear drums drove by constantly and he did nothing! I had to be a jack ass and told him that he's a stupid ass and should start doing his real job instead of harassing car people! He just said he'll talk to them... and thats all he did, TALK! I got the ticket! ...

And the thing about Safety? I've seen countless reviews about the light output of non HID bulbs causing migrains... possible brain damage if you ask me! I get headachs all the time looking into the lights of non hids... Its like a framerate on a monitor... you have to be above 72 or you'll get damage inside your skull!

Why dont they just ban headlights all together! I dont care if they ban it... they will have to rip my HIDS from my dead, lifeless fingers! I will die to build my car the way I want! But thats me! No judge, or cop, fbi agent, cia or NSA agent could make me take anything off my car!

There is NO way a court build and hold a strong case against you for having HID's or Exhaust or hell, ANYTHING! If you pass emissions and have seat belts, your good!

 

[SVP97GST]

I had cheap projectors on my car and the HID's didn't work. I've never tried the retrofit, but I heard it's good. I now have the stock headlights with HID's and I don't really see anything wrong with it. A little spray never hurt anyone. Plus...it's nice to see a 180 degree radius out your windshield.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

Wait what? What does HID's have to do with Windsheilds... and what do you mean you had projectors and the HID's didn't work. Projector headlights don't come with HID's... They come with Halogen H1 bulbs. Question, do you know what HID's are?

 

[RWKustoms]

Wait what? What does HID's have to do with Windsheilds... and what do you mean you had projectors and the HID's didn't work. Projector headlights don't come with HID's... They come with Halogen H1 bulbs. Question, do you know what HID's are?

I'm guessing what he meant was that his HID's weren't as bright when they were installed in his projectors as appose to them being installed in his stock headlight housings now. I also think that he means that a little "glare' never hurts anyone. And lastly, the windshield comment seems to be about the degree of vision because of all the god damed glare (meaning that it glares in front and to the sides so street signs, trees, houses, curbs, fences, etc. all get lit up because of all the glare), which is very sad.

 

[SVP97GST]

It's funny how one person can totally understand something and another person just have it fly right over their head like they're reading japanese. But yes, RWK, you were right on the money. But as for my projectors, I made the mistake of buying ebay projectors and they weren't compatible with any other bulb besides the h1 or whatever it was. The light just beamed straight down. Answer, I do know what HID's are. High Intensity Discharge.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

Hey, no offence... but you seriously need to rethink the way you type stuff...

And about the mistakes for the ebay projectors... ALL, and I do mean ALL the Projectors, ebay or not use H1 bulbs. The only way you can use HID on any aftermarket headlight such as projectors, is to modify the housing. I forgot his username on here, but he made those awsome led tails... he has on his website a run through on the steps of modifying your projectors to hold the Valeo projector housings so you can have the crisp clear beam.

Wait, its AZDave I belive... But pretty much you gotta replace the housing with valeo projector housings... you can locate some cheap ones at the junk yard easily in daewoo's... you have to use the projectors that are bolted to a metal frame... unlike integra's... integra's headlights are all 1 peice on the inside.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

Here's the comparison... H1 vs 9006 D2S 10000K HID Conversion Kit in Ebay Projectors. This is my own photo! I have more if you want!

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And here look on the wall on the right, you can see the beam line... not a good photo... but this was SHARP! I mean SEVERELY SHARP! Just like you see on new cars!

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[poonman]

those look mad sweet bro, that glare doesnt look bad at all, how much did your projections run.

 

[Killa_dsm]

Damn Josh that looks pretty good. Do you have any pictures of it pointed directly at a wall?

 

[SharpHID]

How is it you have a 9006 D2S? Did you convert a 9006 to a D2S fitting or the other way around? I'm confused. It does look good!

 

[justnobody]

Yea .. WOW .. what did you do exactly ...

 

[blackGSX2g]

Like RWKustoms said, stick with the OEM retrofit or you won't get optimum performance.

Here are some pics of mine, the beam pattern is just about the same as my BMW and it doesn't glare people driving towards me. I hate it when I see cars that have done the 'HID Kit' just for the blue color and I have to squint my eyes when driving past at night.

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[Killa_dsm]

So wait, let me get this straight. blackgsx2g you have a retrofit? or are those pics with no retrofit?

 

[blackGSX2g]

Those pics are with an OEM retrofit: Acura TSX lenses mounted to Lexus RX330 bowls in an eBay projector headlight housing. The bulbs are OEM Phillips D2S 4300k.

 

[RWKustoms]

Here's the comparison... H1 vs 9006 D2S 10000K HID Conversion Kit in Ebay Projectors. This is my own photo! I have more if you want!

Ok, this doesn't make any sense. Did you do a retrofit with D2S bulbs? What projectors did you use? What do you mean by 9006 D2S?